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Attributes | |
ACN | 495570 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sbgl.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sbgl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 10 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 24300 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 495570 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 495785 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical ground encounters other inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Gig ground control instructed us to taxi to the holding point of runway 10 via taxiway north and taxiway O. While approaching the holding point, the tower controller stated 'air carrier abcd, line up and wait runway 10.' the copilot repeated the clearance. As we continued to taxi toward the runway and very close to the runway, we were instructed to hold our present position. As I stopped the aircraft, I looked back beyond the approach end of the runway and noticed that an aircraft was on final. Our airplane stopped with the nose extended beyond the edge of the runway. At my request, the copilot informed the tower that our aircraft was on the runway. Again, we were instructed to hold our present position. The copilot repeated that our aircraft was on the runway. There was an exchange in portuguese probably between the tower controller and the aircraft on final. The aircraft on final continued the approach and appeared to land quite a distance down the runway in relation both to our aircraft and to the thousand ft marker. The copilot and I agree that there were at least 2 different controllers responding to our xmissions. The nose of our MD11 penetrated the edge of the runway by about 3 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD11 CREW HAD ACFT LAND OVER THE TOP OF THEM ON RWY 10 AT SBGL.
Narrative: GIG GND CTL INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI TO THE HOLDING POINT OF RWY 10 VIA TXWY N AND TXWY O. WHILE APCHING THE HOLDING POINT, THE TWR CTLR STATED 'ACR ABCD, LINE UP AND WAIT RWY 10.' THE COPLT REPEATED THE CLRNC. AS WE CONTINUED TO TAXI TOWARD THE RWY AND VERY CLOSE TO THE RWY, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD OUR PRESENT POS. AS I STOPPED THE ACFT, I LOOKED BACK BEYOND THE APCH END OF THE RWY AND NOTICED THAT AN ACFT WAS ON FINAL. OUR AIRPLANE STOPPED WITH THE NOSE EXTENDED BEYOND THE EDGE OF THE RWY. AT MY REQUEST, THE COPLT INFORMED THE TWR THAT OUR ACFT WAS ON THE RWY. AGAIN, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD OUR PRESENT POS. THE COPLT REPEATED THAT OUR ACFT WAS ON THE RWY. THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE IN PORTUGUESE PROBABLY BTWN THE TWR CTLR AND THE ACFT ON FINAL. THE ACFT ON FINAL CONTINUED THE APCH AND APPEARED TO LAND QUITE A DISTANCE DOWN THE RWY IN RELATION BOTH TO OUR ACFT AND TO THE THOUSAND FT MARKER. THE COPLT AND I AGREE THAT THERE WERE AT LEAST 2 DIFFERENT CTLRS RESPONDING TO OUR XMISSIONS. THE NOSE OF OUR MD11 PENETRATED THE EDGE OF THE RWY BY ABOUT 3 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.