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Attributes | |
ACN | 497139 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : company check pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time type : 1138 |
ASRS Report | 497139 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : tkof warn. horn other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While giving an en route check, I observed crew advance power for takeoff and encountering takeoff warning horn with confign gear steering warning annunciation. The captain retarded throttles, idented as confign gear, then advanced power and continued takeoff. Made statement 'warning will go off and out on roll as aircraft straightens out.' warning continued. By the time crew recognized warning would not cease, aircraft was well above 80 KTS and accelerating rapidly. Captain elected to continue takeoff, realizing it might have been a real gear and steering problem. Crew discussed event after airborne, and captain stated during simulator training and on IOE that same warning occurred and instructor and IOE captain instructed to continue and warning would silence on takeoff roll -- that is, unless there is an actual malfunction. On debriefing of flight, crew knew and should have stopped aircraft and in retrospect would have. I believe an improper lack of emphasis on the problem is occurring at the carrier's training center and during line training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 CREW CONTINUED TKOF, DESPITE A TKOF WARNING HORN.
Narrative: WHILE GIVING AN ENRTE CHK, I OBSERVED CREW ADVANCE PWR FOR TKOF AND ENCOUNTERING TKOF WARNING HORN WITH CONFIGN GEAR STEERING WARNING ANNUNCIATION. THE CAPT RETARDED THROTTLES, IDENTED AS CONFIGN GEAR, THEN ADVANCED PWR AND CONTINUED TKOF. MADE STATEMENT 'WARNING WILL GO OFF AND OUT ON ROLL AS ACFT STRAIGHTENS OUT.' WARNING CONTINUED. BY THE TIME CREW RECOGNIZED WARNING WOULD NOT CEASE, ACFT WAS WELL ABOVE 80 KTS AND ACCELERATING RAPIDLY. CAPT ELECTED TO CONTINUE TKOF, REALIZING IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A REAL GEAR AND STEERING PROB. CREW DISCUSSED EVENT AFTER AIRBORNE, AND CAPT STATED DURING SIMULATOR TRAINING AND ON IOE THAT SAME WARNING OCCURRED AND INSTRUCTOR AND IOE CAPTAIN INSTRUCTED TO CONTINUE AND WARNING WOULD SILENCE ON TKOF ROLL -- THAT IS, UNLESS THERE IS AN ACTUAL MALFUNCTION. ON DEBRIEFING OF FLT, CREW KNEW AND SHOULD HAVE STOPPED ACFT AND IN RETROSPECT WOULD HAVE. I BELIEVE AN IMPROPER LACK OF EMPHASIS ON THE PROB IS OCCURRING AT THE CARRIER'S TRAINING CENTER AND DURING LINE TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.