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Attributes | |
ACN | 497740 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 497740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During descent into msp, WX clear and 10 mi visibility, copilot was flying. We called airport in sight at 12 mi. Approach control gave us a visual approach clearance to runway 30R. The copilot set the final approach altitude in the altitude window and began descending to that altitude. The approach controller informed us we had gone below the class B airspace limit and should climb back up. He said he would not file a violation on us. I was not aware of the rule and could not find it clearly written in part 1. Upon review of my aim when I got home, I found the restr in part 97. My aim was 12 yrs old, so it may be in a different place now. I would recommend a clear statement in part 1 advising of this restr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: F100 FLC DSND OUT OF MSP CLASS B AIRSPACE AND ARE ADVISED BY M98 CTLR.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT INTO MSP, WX CLR AND 10 MI VISIBILITY, COPLT WAS FLYING. WE CALLED ARPT IN SIGHT AT 12 MI. APCH CTL GAVE US A VISUAL APCH CLRNC TO RWY 30R. THE COPLT SET THE FINAL APCH ALT IN THE ALT WINDOW AND BEGAN DSNDING TO THAT ALT. THE APCH CTLR INFORMED US WE HAD GONE BELOW THE CLASS B AIRSPACE LIMIT AND SHOULD CLB BACK UP. HE SAID HE WOULD NOT FILE A VIOLATION ON US. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE RULE AND COULD NOT FIND IT CLRLY WRITTEN IN PART 1. UPON REVIEW OF MY AIM WHEN I GOT HOME, I FOUND THE RESTR IN PART 97. MY AIM WAS 12 YRS OLD, SO IT MAY BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW. I WOULD RECOMMEND A CLR STATEMENT IN PART 1 ADVISING OF THIS RESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.