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Attributes | |
ACN | 500409 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cdw.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 640 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 500409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was at 3000 ft, 2 NM east of mmu, and was told to enter a downwind for runway 22 at cdw (my destination). I believed that since new york TRACON told me to 'enter the right downwind for runway 22' I was cleared to descend to pattern altitude, as the 'downwind' only exists in the pattern, not 3000 ft. As I was descending through 2600 ft, approach controller got upset and insisted he did not clear me for the visual approach. While I agree the standard phraseology is 'cleared for the visual approach runway 22,' an instruction to enter part of the traffic pattern to an airport implied you have to descend to pattern altitude. I feel to avoid confusion, the controller should have stated 'enter the downwind for runway 22, maintain 3000 ft.' by issuing the nonstandard 'enter the downwind,' I mistakenly thought he wanted me to descend, as I was 3 NM from the runway when he issued the instruction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: M20P PLT STARTED DSCNT TO TFC PATTERN ALT WITHOUT ATC APPROVAL.
Narrative: I WAS AT 3000 FT, 2 NM E OF MMU, AND WAS TOLD TO ENTER A DOWNWIND FOR RWY 22 AT CDW (MY DEST). I BELIEVED THAT SINCE NEW YORK TRACON TOLD ME TO 'ENTER THE R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 22' I WAS CLRED TO DSND TO PATTERN ALT, AS THE 'DOWNWIND' ONLY EXISTS IN THE PATTERN, NOT 3000 FT. AS I WAS DSNDING THROUGH 2600 FT, APCH CTLR GOT UPSET AND INSISTED HE DID NOT CLR ME FOR THE VISUAL APCH. WHILE I AGREE THE STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY IS 'CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH RWY 22,' AN INSTRUCTION TO ENTER PART OF THE TFC PATTERN TO AN ARPT IMPLIED YOU HAVE TO DSND TO PATTERN ALT. I FEEL TO AVOID CONFUSION, THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE STATED 'ENTER THE DOWNWIND FOR RWY 22, MAINTAIN 3000 FT.' BY ISSUING THE NONSTANDARD 'ENTER THE DOWNWIND,' I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT HE WANTED ME TO DSND, AS I WAS 3 NM FROM THE RWY WHEN HE ISSUED THE INSTRUCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.