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Pilot of a private jet during a pleasure flight at 10500 ft observed a turboprop airliner at his same altitude and overheard the flight crew complain about his aircraft being close and not pointed out by ATC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 501550 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200102 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gso.airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : gso.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : gso.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 16 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 60 |
| ASRS Report | 501550 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flying VFR at 10500 ft to int, about 50 mi east of int saw a turboprop airliner off my right at about 10000 ft. Watched him for a bit, called gso approach about 45 mi from my destination and got a squawk code. Airliner apparently got a TCASII and asked gso about traffic which they reported. Airline pilot got mad and asked for controller's phone number. Controller told captain it was his responsibility to see and avoid. Captain got mad and said he was going to report it. It was not a near miss or anything in my view, but in view of the 'flap' I thought I'd better use NASA form.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A PVT JET DURING A PLEASURE FLT AT 10500 FT OBSERVED A TURBOPROP AIRLINER AT HIS SAME ALT AND OVERHEARD THE FLC COMPLAIN ABOUT HIS ACFT BEING CLOSE AND NOT POINTED OUT BY ATC.
Narrative: FLYING VFR AT 10500 FT TO INT, ABOUT 50 MI E OF INT SAW A TURBOPROP AIRLINER OFF MY R AT ABOUT 10000 FT. WATCHED HIM FOR A BIT, CALLED GSO APCH ABOUT 45 MI FROM MY DEST AND GOT A SQUAWK CODE. AIRLINER APPARENTLY GOT A TCASII AND ASKED GSO ABOUT TFC WHICH THEY RPTED. AIRLINE PLT GOT MAD AND ASKED FOR CTLR'S PHONE NUMBER. CTLR TOLD CAPT IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE AND AVOID. CAPT GOT MAD AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO RPT IT. IT WAS NOT A NEAR MISS OR ANYTHING IN MY VIEW, BUT IN VIEW OF THE 'FLAP' I THOUGHT I'D BETTER USE NASA FORM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.