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Attributes | |
ACN | 504800 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : psp.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 3000 agl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : psp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : psp.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 504800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC vectored us high and close to the psp airport for a visual to runway 13R. When cleared for the visual, I turned east to allow room for the descent and the turn back to downwind. Wbound VFR traffic was called by ATC and appeared on TCASII. Visual contact was made. Passing this traffic, a 'reduce descent' RA was generated and followed. No other traffic was observed on the TCASII or called by ATC. I turned right to enter the downwind for runway 13R. During the turn a TCASII target appeared moving toward us. This target closed on us and again a 'reduce descent' RA was generated and followed. Visual contact with this 'second' target was never made nor did ATC ever call it. Once 'clear of conflict' the landing was made without further incident. Note: given the fact that there were never 2 TCASII targets ever present and ATC never advised of additional traffic and visual contact was never made with the second target, is it possible that it was in fact a 'false' target return from the traffic we had already passed caused by the TCASII antenna tilt/orientation change during our turn (25-30 degree bank)?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD83 FLC GETS 2 TCASII RA'S OFF 1 ACFT WHILE CIRCLING E OF PSP, CA.
Narrative: ATC VECTORED US HIGH AND CLOSE TO THE PSP ARPT FOR A VISUAL TO RWY 13R. WHEN CLRED FOR THE VISUAL, I TURNED E TO ALLOW ROOM FOR THE DSCNT AND THE TURN BACK TO DOWNWIND. WBOUND VFR TFC WAS CALLED BY ATC AND APPEARED ON TCASII. VISUAL CONTACT WAS MADE. PASSING THIS TFC, A 'REDUCE DSCNT' RA WAS GENERATED AND FOLLOWED. NO OTHER TFC WAS OBSERVED ON THE TCASII OR CALLED BY ATC. I TURNED R TO ENTER THE DOWNWIND FOR RWY 13R. DURING THE TURN A TCASII TARGET APPEARED MOVING TOWARD US. THIS TARGET CLOSED ON US AND AGAIN A 'REDUCE DSCNT' RA WAS GENERATED AND FOLLOWED. VISUAL CONTACT WITH THIS 'SECOND' TARGET WAS NEVER MADE NOR DID ATC EVER CALL IT. ONCE 'CLR OF CONFLICT' THE LNDG WAS MADE WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. NOTE: GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NEVER 2 TCASII TARGETS EVER PRESENT AND ATC NEVER ADVISED OF ADDITIONAL TFC AND VISUAL CONTACT WAS NEVER MADE WITH THE SECOND TARGET, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT WAS IN FACT A 'FALSE' TARGET RETURN FROM THE TFC WE HAD ALREADY PASSED CAUSED BY THE TCASII ANTENNA TILT/ORIENTATION CHANGE DURING OUR TURN (25-30 DEG BANK)?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.