A cpr crew of a C560 taxied to the active runway hold line without asking for taxi clearance at boi,...

Attributes
ACN	505160
Time
Date	200103
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : boi.airport
State Reference	ID
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : dfw.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Citation V
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 115
ASRS Report	505160
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4600 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	504328
Events
Anomaly	incursion : taxiway non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other controllerb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

During taxi from hangar to the active runway, we entered and taxied without a taxi clearance. Engines had been started and the after start checklist completed. First officer listened to and posted the ATIS and received clearance from clearance delivery. Captain was programming the FMS as per our SOP's. I asked the first officer if we were going to runway 10R and he affirmed runway 10R. This was poor communication on my part. I should have asked if we were cleared to runway 10R. We cleared both wingtips and I began to taxi to the active runway and called for the taxi/before takeoff checklist. It is a relatively short distance from the hangar to runway 10R with the first 1/2 of the distance on an uncontrolled ramp area. We were both very busy completing checklists and entered the controled taxiway without a ground taxi clearance. Upon reaching the runway 10R hold line and completing our checklist for takeoff, we discovered we were still on clearance delivery frequency. No other aircraft were involved. The crew debriefed after the flight and we believe more precise communication between crew members would not have allowed this event to have happened. Supplemental information from acn 504328: after receiving ATIS, I secured a clearance from delivery. After readback, I called 'clear' on my side of aircraft and the captain asked 'runway 10R?' to which I replied 'affirmative, runway 10.' the captain started taxiing toward the controled surface area to taxiway K. I announced my head was down and started programming v-spds, TCASII, while starting checklists, as this taxi was a short one to the runway in use. We were both surprised to get a call from clearance delivery asking if we had talked to ground control. We received subsequent clearance for further taxi and takeoff which was uneventful. When he asked 'runway 10R?' and I affirmed, he thought I meant we were cleared to runway 10R. I was simply stating runway in use. I should have clarified his poorly stated question. Also, our haste to complete our pre takeoff checks and setups helped to cause a serious omission. Failure to secure a taxi clearance.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CPR CREW OF A C560 TAXIED TO THE ACTIVE RWY HOLD LINE WITHOUT ASKING FOR TAXI CLRNC AT BOI, ID.

Narrative: DURING TAXI FROM HANGAR TO THE ACTIVE RWY, WE ENTERED AND TAXIED WITHOUT A TAXI CLRNC. ENGS HAD BEEN STARTED AND THE AFTER START CHKLIST COMPLETED. FO LISTENED TO AND POSTED THE ATIS AND RECEIVED CLRNC FROM CLRNC DELIVERY. CAPT WAS PROGRAMMING THE FMS AS PER OUR SOP'S. I ASKED THE FO IF WE WERE GOING TO RWY 10R AND HE AFFIRMED RWY 10R. THIS WAS POOR COM ON MY PART. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED TO RWY 10R. WE CLRED BOTH WINGTIPS AND I BEGAN TO TAXI TO THE ACTIVE RWY AND CALLED FOR THE TAXI/BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. IT IS A RELATIVELY SHORT DISTANCE FROM THE HANGAR TO RWY 10R WITH THE FIRST 1/2 OF THE DISTANCE ON AN UNCTLED RAMP AREA. WE WERE BOTH VERY BUSY COMPLETING CHKLISTS AND ENTERED THE CTLED TXWY WITHOUT A GND TAXI CLRNC. UPON REACHING THE RWY 10R HOLD LINE AND COMPLETING OUR CHKLIST FOR TKOF, WE DISCOVERED WE WERE STILL ON CLRNC DELIVERY FREQ. NO OTHER ACFT WERE INVOLVED. THE CREW DEBRIEFED AFTER THE FLT AND WE BELIEVE MORE PRECISE COM BTWN CREW MEMBERS WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THIS EVENT TO HAVE HAPPENED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 504328: AFTER RECEIVING ATIS, I SECURED A CLRNC FROM DELIVERY. AFTER READBACK, I CALLED 'CLR' ON MY SIDE OF ACFT AND THE CAPT ASKED 'RWY 10R?' TO WHICH I REPLIED 'AFFIRMATIVE, RWY 10.' THE CAPT STARTED TAXIING TOWARD THE CTLED SURFACE AREA TO TXWY K. I ANNOUNCED MY HEAD WAS DOWN AND STARTED PROGRAMMING V-SPDS, TCASII, WHILE STARTING CHKLISTS, AS THIS TAXI WAS A SHORT ONE TO THE RWY IN USE. WE WERE BOTH SURPRISED TO GET A CALL FROM CLRNC DELIVERY ASKING IF WE HAD TALKED TO GND CTL. WE RECEIVED SUBSEQUENT CLRNC FOR FURTHER TAXI AND TKOF WHICH WAS UNEVENTFUL. WHEN HE ASKED 'RWY 10R?' AND I AFFIRMED, HE THOUGHT I MEANT WE WERE CLRED TO RWY 10R. I WAS SIMPLY STATING RWY IN USE. I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED HIS POORLY STATED QUESTION. ALSO, OUR HASTE TO COMPLETE OUR PRE TKOF CHKS AND SETUPS HELPED TO CAUSE A SERIOUS OMISSION. FAILURE TO SECURE A TAXI CLRNC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A cpr crew of a C560 taxied to the active runway hold line without asking for taxi clearance at boi, identification.