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Bos tower changes clearance with MD80 and asks if they are clear of runway. Advising they are not, tower sends the first of two aircraft around attempting to clear the flight crew for takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 506256 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200103 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : eos.airport |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Rain Fog |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower tower : mia.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 506256 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 506399 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Bos tower cleared us onto runway 4R with 'position and hold.' as we crossed the hold short line for runway 4R, a light twin broke out under the 700 ft overcast for runway 4R. Tower asked us if we could hold short of hold line which we had just crossed. We stopped short of entering runway 4R. Tower then advised the light twin to go around. After the light twin went around, tower cleared us onto runway 4R. We could see lights in the clouds for an aircraft on final as we went into position, but couldn't determine for sure if it was landing on runway 4R or runway 4L. Tower then advised an air carrier Y flight on final for runway 4R to go around, after advising us to exit the runway we went back for a takeoff on runway 4R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BOS TWR CHANGES CLRNC WITH MD80 AND ASKS IF THEY ARE CLR OF RWY. ADVISING THEY ARE NOT, TWR SENDS THE FIRST OF TWO ACFT AROUND ATTEMPTING TO CLR THE FLC FOR TKOF.
Narrative: BOS TWR CLRED US ONTO RWY 4R WITH 'POSITION AND HOLD.' AS WE CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 4R, A LIGHT TWIN BROKE OUT UNDER THE 700 FT OVERCAST FOR RWY 4R. TWR ASKED US IF WE COULD HOLD SHORT OF HOLD LINE WHICH WE HAD JUST CROSSED. WE STOPPED SHORT OF ENTERING RWY 4R. TWR THEN ADVISED THE LIGHT TWIN TO GAR. AFTER THE LIGHT TWIN WENT AROUND, TWR CLRED US ONTO RWY 4R. WE COULD SEE LIGHTS IN THE CLOUDS FOR AN ACFT ON FINAL AS WE WENT INTO POS, BUT COULDN'T DETERMINE FOR SURE IF IT WAS LNDG ON RWY 4R OR RWY 4L. TWR THEN ADVISED AN ACR Y FLT ON FINAL FOR RWY 4R TO GAR, AFTER ADVISING US TO EXIT THE RWY WE WENT BACK FOR A TKOF ON RWY 4R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.