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Attributes | |
ACN | 506429 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon artcc : zan.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 26r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 27l other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 506429 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 506407 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On approach to runway 26R at atl, we were on a heading to intercept the localizer at 210 KTS. Simultaneous approachs to runway 27L were commencing. With the autoplt set to capture the localizer, we noticed it was going to bank to the localizer but couldn't capture it using autoplt banking. The first officer disconnected the autoplt and we used maximum banking to remain close to the localizer. We approached from the north and deviated south. Meanwhile, the MD88 approached its localizer from the south and also deviated or overshot the approach. We were both correcting in broken clouds visually and we got the RA at that time. We should have hand flown the approach and asked to slow down close to the localizer course. 2 aircraft making the same mistake could have been an near midair collision. Staggered approachs should have been implemented in broken cloud IMC approachs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A B727 OVERSHOT AN INTERMEDIATE ALT DURING DSCNT AND OVERSHOT FINAL WHEN INTERCEPTING THE LOC CAUSING CONFLICTION WITH ANOTHER ACFT TURNING ON FINAL FOR THE PARALLEL RWY WHICH HAD ALSO OVERSHOT THE FINAL TURN.
Narrative: ON APCH TO RWY 26R AT ATL, WE WERE ON A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LOC AT 210 KTS. SIMULTANEOUS APCHS TO RWY 27L WERE COMMENCING. WITH THE AUTOPLT SET TO CAPTURE THE LOC, WE NOTICED IT WAS GOING TO BANK TO THE LOC BUT COULDN'T CAPTURE IT USING AUTOPLT BANKING. THE FO DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND WE USED MAX BANKING TO REMAIN CLOSE TO THE LOC. WE APCHED FROM THE N AND DEVIATED S. MEANWHILE, THE MD88 APCHED ITS LOC FROM THE S AND ALSO DEVIATED OR OVERSHOT THE APCH. WE WERE BOTH CORRECTING IN BROKEN CLOUDS VISUALLY AND WE GOT THE RA AT THAT TIME. WE SHOULD HAVE HAND FLOWN THE APCH AND ASKED TO SLOW DOWN CLOSE TO THE LOC COURSE. 2 ACFT MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE COULD HAVE BEEN AN NMAC. STAGGERED APCHS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN BROKEN CLOUD IMC APCHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.