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Attributes | |
ACN | 506667 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lar.vortac |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | msl single value : 9700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Snow Fog Turbulence |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | landing : go around landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 506667 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After going missed approach on the VOR/DME 30 into lar, we entered the hold over the lar VOR as published. Shortly thereafter, while maintaining the missed approach altitude of 9700 ft MSL, we were 'cleared for an approach into lar.' we chose to execute the VOR/DME 30 approach after re-crossing the lar VOR. As we proceeded outbound on the lar R112 degree radial, I asked the first officer what altitude we could descend to. He looked at the approach chart and advised me that we were to proceed outbound on the lar 112 degree radial until reaching the 11 DME fix, at which point we could descend to 10600 ft MSL. Being that we were still at 9700 ft MSL, I questioned the center controller of what altitude we were to maintain for the approach. He responded that we were to derive our own altitude from reading the approach chart for the VOR/DME 30 approach into lar. We misunderstood the instructions we were issued when 'cleared for an approach into lar.' we were under the impression that we were to maintain 9700 ft until established on the approach. After becoming aware of the misunderstanding, we immediately climbed to 10600 ft MSL and continued on the approach into lar without further incident. Cause of problem: lack of communication between crew and ATC and also between myself and the other crew member. To correct the situation: require specific altitude to be maintained after going missed approach to be verified by both crews and ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BE1900 FLC MISINTERPS THE APCH CHART IN READING THE INITIAL APCH ALT REQUIRED FROM THE HOLDING PATTERN ALT FOR ANOTHER APCH INTO LAR, WY.
Narrative: AFTER GOING MISSED APCH ON THE VOR/DME 30 INTO LAR, WE ENTERED THE HOLD OVER THE LAR VOR AS PUBLISHED. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WHILE MAINTAINING THE MISSED APCH ALT OF 9700 FT MSL, WE WERE 'CLRED FOR AN APCH INTO LAR.' WE CHOSE TO EXECUTE THE VOR/DME 30 APCH AFTER RE-XING THE LAR VOR. AS WE PROCEEDED OUTBOUND ON THE LAR R112 DEG RADIAL, I ASKED THE FO WHAT ALT WE COULD DSND TO. HE LOOKED AT THE APCH CHART AND ADVISED ME THAT WE WERE TO PROCEED OUTBOUND ON THE LAR 112 DEG RADIAL UNTIL REACHING THE 11 DME FIX, AT WHICH POINT WE COULD DSND TO 10600 FT MSL. BEING THAT WE WERE STILL AT 9700 FT MSL, I QUESTIONED THE CTR CTLR OF WHAT ALT WE WERE TO MAINTAIN FOR THE APCH. HE RESPONDED THAT WE WERE TO DERIVE OUR OWN ALT FROM READING THE APCH CHART FOR THE VOR/DME 30 APCH INTO LAR. WE MISUNDERSTOOD THE INSTRUCTIONS WE WERE ISSUED WHEN 'CLRED FOR AN APCH INTO LAR.' WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE TO MAINTAIN 9700 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON THE APCH. AFTER BECOMING AWARE OF THE MISUNDERSTANDING, WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO 10600 FT MSL AND CONTINUED ON THE APCH INTO LAR WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. CAUSE OF PROB: LACK OF COM BTWN CREW AND ATC AND ALSO BTWN MYSELF AND THE OTHER CREW MEMBER. TO CORRECT THE SIT: REQUIRE SPECIFIC ALT TO BE MAINTAINED AFTER GOING MISSED APCH TO BE VERIFIED BY BOTH CREWS AND ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.