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Attributes | |
ACN | 507840 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vhhh.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Flight Phase | descent : holding |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival star : baker 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 507840 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
During arrival into hong kong on STAR baker 1 arrival on akero transition, was informed by hong kong to fly heading -- approximately north position, east and north of baker -- when told by approach of emergency in progress to proceed direct to baker and hold. Proceeded to baker and entered direct hold with inbound course approximately 180 degrees or holding north of baker. After entry, I checked the pattern against the published hold. 2 different patterns. Controller accepted by report of entry and made no comment on our pattern. He did not say as published, however, I presume the published pattern was the desired pattern. After 1 or 2 turns with our hold, controller vectored us toward guava and thanked us. By aim, my pattern was incorrect, however, I don't believe the controller was concerned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IN FOREIGN AIRSPACE, A CLRNC TO A FIX AND AN INCOMPLETE HOLDING CLRNC ENDS IN A HOLDING PATTERN THAT DID NOT COMPLY WITH EITHER PUBLISHED HOLDING PATTERN. ATC, WHO WAS HANDLING AN EMER IN PROGRESS, IS RPTED TO BE UNCONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCEIVED DEV.
Narrative: DURING ARR INTO HONG KONG ON STAR BAKER 1 ARR ON AKERO TRANSITION, WAS INFORMED BY HONG KONG TO FLY HDG -- APPROX N POS, E AND N OF BAKER -- WHEN TOLD BY APCH OF EMER IN PROGRESS TO PROCEED DIRECT TO BAKER AND HOLD. PROCEEDED TO BAKER AND ENTERED DIRECT HOLD WITH INBOUND COURSE APPROX 180 DEGS OR HOLDING N OF BAKER. AFTER ENTRY, I CHKED THE PATTERN AGAINST THE PUBLISHED HOLD. 2 DIFFERENT PATTERNS. CTLR ACCEPTED BY RPT OF ENTRY AND MADE NO COMMENT ON OUR PATTERN. HE DID NOT SAY AS PUBLISHED, HOWEVER, I PRESUME THE PUBLISHED PATTERN WAS THE DESIRED PATTERN. AFTER 1 OR 2 TURNS WITH OUR HOLD, CTLR VECTORED US TOWARD GUAVA AND THANKED US. BY AIM, MY PATTERN WAS INCORRECT, HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CTLR WAS CONCERNED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.