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Attributes | |
ACN | 508569 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower tower : dtw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller limited radar : 5 controller military : 3 controller non radar : 13 controller time certified in position1 : 5 |
ASRS Report | 508569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa government other |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : executed go around |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft X told to taxi into position and hold, later cleared for takeoff, acknowledged clearance and continued to hold in position on runway. When the takeoff clearance was restated along with a report of traffic now on final to the same runway, pilot stated he was waiting for two mins wake turbulence from previous heavy jet departure. Aircraft Y was sent around to avoid a loss of separation. At facilities with radar, controllers expect to apply radar separation standards over non-radar (ie time) standards and fully expect to be informed of requests for more than standard separation prior to the aircraft crossing the hold line. I suggest all pilots adhere to the aim procedure to ask before entering the runway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the pilot (aircraft X) should have been aware of arrival traffic, and should not have accepted a position and hold clearance if he needed additional separation from the departing aircraft. Reporter also stated that he thought it was unprofessional for this pilot to subsequently accept the takeoff clearance, and then continue to hold position on the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF ACFT ACCEPTS A 'POS AND HOLD' CLRNC WITHOUT ADVISING LCL CTLR OF DESIRE FOR ADDITIONAL SEPARATION FROM DEPARTING ACFT. A CONFLICT ENSUES WITH AN ARRIVING ACFT. CTLR ISSUES A GAR.
Narrative: ACFT X TOLD TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD, LATER CLEARED FOR TKOF, ACKNOWLEDGED CLRNC AND CONTINUED TO HOLD IN POS ON RWY. WHEN THE TKOF CLRNC WAS RESTATED ALONG WITH A REPORT OF TFC NOW ON FINAL TO THE SAME RWY, PLT STATED HE WAS WAITING FOR TWO MINS WAKE TURB FROM PREVIOUS HEAVY JET DEP. ACFT Y WAS SENT AROUND TO AVOID A LOSS OF SEPARATION. AT FACILITIES WITH RADAR, CTLRS EXPECT TO APPLY RADAR SEPARATION STANDARDS OVER NON-RADAR (IE TIME) STANDARDS AND FULLY EXPECT TO BE INFORMED OF REQUESTS FOR MORE THAN STANDARD SEPARATION PRIOR TO THE ACFT CROSSING THE HOLD LINE. I SUGGEST ALL PLTS ADHERE TO THE AIM PROC TO ASK BEFORE ENTERING THE RWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE PLT (ACFT X) SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF ARR TFC, AND SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED A POS AND HOLD CLRNC IF HE NEEDED ADDITIONAL SEPARATION FROM THE DEPARTING ACFT. RPTR ALSO STATED THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS UNPROFESSIONAL FOR THIS PLT TO SUBSEQUENTLY ACCEPT THE TKOF CLRNC, AND THEN CONTINUE TO HOLD POS ON THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.