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Attributes | |
ACN | 508640 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : elp.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : deemer 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 508610 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing elp runway 26L, clearance was to 17000 ft 'deemer 1.' taking runway for takeoff, tower volume was low. We were clearing for takeoff, climb to 'one seven thousand,' which we read back with no argument or correction. On climb out, a light twin was pointed out at 7500 ft at our 11 O'clock position. We saw the traffic which was never a conflict. Then departure questioned if we were given 7000 ft as an altitude. We said no and were then cleared to 17000 ft. The terminology of 'one seven thousand' should be 'seventeen thousand' then the assignment of 'seven thousand' would not be confused on the clearance or the readback.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD88 FLT CREW CLBS TO 17000 FT AS PER CLRNC READBACK AND IS QUESTIONED BY DEP CTLR IF 7000 FT HAD BEEN ASSIGNED AFTER DEP FROM ELP, TX.
Narrative: DEPARTING ELP RWY 26L, CLRNC WAS TO 17000 FT 'DEEMER 1.' TAKING RWY FOR TKOF, TWR VOLUME WAS LOW. WE WERE CLRING FOR TKOF, CLB TO 'ONE SEVEN THOUSAND,' WHICH WE READ BACK WITH NO ARGUMENT OR CORRECTION. ON CLBOUT, A LIGHT TWIN WAS POINTED OUT AT 7500 FT AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS. WE SAW THE TFC WHICH WAS NEVER A CONFLICT. THEN DEP QUESTIONED IF WE WERE GIVEN 7000 FT AS AN ALT. WE SAID NO AND WERE THEN CLRED TO 17000 FT. THE TERMINOLOGY OF 'ONE SEVEN THOUSAND' SHOULD BE 'SEVENTEEN THOUSAND' THEN THE ASSIGNMENT OF 'SEVEN THOUSAND' WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED ON THE CLRNC OR THE READBACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.