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Attributes | |
ACN | 514390 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna Stationair/Turbo Stationair 6 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 514390 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed lgb airport with the intent of transitioning the lax class B airspace using the hollywood transition off the vny 140 degree radial. Climbed to 4500 ft MSL and second pilot in aircraft, who was operating radios, contacted approach control and requested flight following and clearance through the 'VFR corridor.' approach advised no clearance was necessary, to squawk code abcd and go to the advisory frequency. Since the incorrect term had been used by the pilot operating the radios, ATC was confused as to our intentions. It was decided to maneuver over to the santa monica VOR 132 degree radial and transition the VFR corridor. The advisory frequency was selected, abcd squawked, and the aircraft was maneuvered to the 132 degree radial. This maneuver was made close to the class B airspace boundary and there was a moment of confusion as to whether the aircraft had crossed the class B boundary or cut across a corner while intercepting the radial. A discussion was conducted with the pilot operating the radios. The class B VFR TCA chart had been thoroughly reviewed prior to flight and both pilots were familiarized with the types of VFR transitions available and the proper ways to navigation them. It was concluded by both pilots that better attention should have been paid to the actual terms used to describe the transitions. This could have helped avoid this confusion and type of situation. In the future, both pilots agreed that proper attention should be given to the names of the individual transitions and to not give them all the generic name VFR corridor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C206 FLC APPARENTLY INCUR INTO LAX CLASS B WHILE FLYING INTO THE LAX VFR CLASS B CORRIDOR.
Narrative: DEPARTED LGB ARPT WITH THE INTENT OF TRANSITIONING THE LAX CLASS B AIRSPACE USING THE HOLLYWOOD TRANSITION OFF THE VNY 140 DEG RADIAL. CLBED TO 4500 FT MSL AND SECOND PLT IN ACFT, WHO WAS OPERATING RADIOS, CONTACTED APCH CTL AND REQUESTED FLT FOLLOWING AND CLRNC THROUGH THE 'VFR CORRIDOR.' APCH ADVISED NO CLRNC WAS NECESSARY, TO SQUAWK CODE ABCD AND GO TO THE ADVISORY FREQ. SINCE THE INCORRECT TERM HAD BEEN USED BY THE PLT OPERATING THE RADIOS, ATC WAS CONFUSED AS TO OUR INTENTIONS. IT WAS DECIDED TO MANEUVER OVER TO THE SANTA MONICA VOR 132 DEG RADIAL AND TRANSITION THE VFR CORRIDOR. THE ADVISORY FREQ WAS SELECTED, ABCD SQUAWKED, AND THE ACFT WAS MANEUVERED TO THE 132 DEG RADIAL. THIS MANEUVER WAS MADE CLOSE TO THE CLASS B AIRSPACE BOUNDARY AND THERE WAS A MOMENT OF CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER THE ACFT HAD CROSSED THE CLASS B BOUNDARY OR CUT ACROSS A CORNER WHILE INTERCEPTING THE RADIAL. A DISCUSSION WAS CONDUCTED WITH THE PLT OPERATING THE RADIOS. THE CLASS B VFR TCA CHART HAD BEEN THOROUGHLY REVIEWED PRIOR TO FLT AND BOTH PLTS WERE FAMILIARIZED WITH THE TYPES OF VFR TRANSITIONS AVAILABLE AND THE PROPER WAYS TO NAV THEM. IT WAS CONCLUDED BY BOTH PLTS THAT BETTER ATTN SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID TO THE ACTUAL TERMS USED TO DESCRIBE THE TRANSITIONS. THIS COULD HAVE HELPED AVOID THIS CONFUSION AND TYPE OF SIT. IN THE FUTURE, BOTH PLTS AGREED THAT PROPER ATTN SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUAL TRANSITIONS AND TO NOT GIVE THEM ALL THE GENERIC NAME VFR CORRIDOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.