B727 crew had TCASII RA with military jet trainer in ZKC class a.

Attributes
ACN	514641
Time
Date	200106
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : zkc.artcc
State Reference	KS
Altitude	msl single value : 24500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zkc.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zkc.artcc
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Military
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 12000
ASRS Report	514641
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 9000 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

During descent we received a TCASII TA followed very quickly by an RA 'climb' command. The ivsi commanded a 2500-3000 FPM climb which the captain accomplished. We climbed approximately 1500 ft and received a clear of conflict. ATC did not issue an advisory or appear to be aware of this aircraft until after the event. The aircraft in conflict was a military trainer. He later informed ATC he was previously cleared to FL240. ZKC appeared to be unaware of this aircraft until after the 'clear of conflict' on our TCASII. If we had not been alerted by the TCASII 'traffic alert' and started to decrease rate of descent, the aircraft would have passed very close to each other.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B727 CREW HAD TCASII RA WITH MIL JET TRAINER IN ZKC CLASS A.

Narrative: DURING DSCNT WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA FOLLOWED VERY QUICKLY BY AN RA 'CLB' COMMAND. THE IVSI COMMANDED A 2500-3000 FPM CLB WHICH THE CAPT ACCOMPLISHED. WE CLBED APPROX 1500 FT AND RECEIVED A CLR OF CONFLICT. ATC DID NOT ISSUE AN ADVISORY OR APPEAR TO BE AWARE OF THIS ACFT UNTIL AFTER THE EVENT. THE ACFT IN CONFLICT WAS A MIL TRAINER. HE LATER INFORMED ATC HE WAS PREVIOUSLY CLRED TO FL240. ZKC APPEARED TO BE UNAWARE OF THIS ACFT UNTIL AFTER THE 'CLR OF CONFLICT' ON OUR TCASII. IF WE HAD NOT BEEN ALERTED BY THE TCASII 'TFC ALERT' AND STARTED TO DECREASE RATE OF DSCNT, THE ACFT WOULD HAVE PASSED VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.