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Attributes | |
ACN | 515644 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : adm.airport |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc tower : arb.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 135 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 515644 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : cabin altimeter other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Company ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At approximately XA22Z on jun/fri/01 at an altitude of FL240 near ardmore, ok, ZFW vectored us to a heading of 250 degrees. We were on board EMB135. The aircraft had 1 pack MEL'ed inoperative. The aircraft normally has 2 packs operational. The remaining pack valve closed causing the cabin altitude to rise. We were unable to reset the pack. As a result the cabin altitude arose to 11000 ft and was climbing. Crew requested clearance to 10000 ft. However, ATC took longer than we wanted to stay at FL240. An emergency was declared. Crew exercised memory items for cabin pressurization being lost and emergency descent. We descended to 10000 ft, a deviation of clearance. I am sure we impacted arrs into dfw, but no evasive action was taken by any other aircraft at 10000 ft. We continued to houston and an uneventful landing was made. No aircraft damage. No cabin or crew member injuries. Contributing factors: maintenance having 1 operational pack. ATC's concern for inbound traffic -- duly noted and understood. Aircraft was given to maintenance to repair packs and pressurization system and to inspect aircraft for damage. All checklists were complied with. Crew exercised all actions and performed in accordance with training standards for such an event to keep passenger safe. Recommendation: EICAS messages when operating on 1 pack should be a caution message if both pack valves close. If we would have had a caution message 'pack 1-2 valve closed' we could have had more time to descend!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB135 FLC USES COMMAND AUTH WHEN DECLARING AN EMER FOR AN EMER DSCNT. ATC RESPONSE WAS TOO SLOW FOR LOWER ALT DUE TO TFC AFTER LOSS OF CABIN PRESSURE AT FL240 ON FREQ WITH ZFW, TX.
Narrative: AT APPROX XA22Z ON JUN/FRI/01 AT AN ALT OF FL240 NEAR ARDMORE, OK, ZFW VECTORED US TO A HDG OF 250 DEGS. WE WERE ON BOARD EMB135. THE ACFT HAD 1 PACK MEL'ED INOP. THE ACFT NORMALLY HAS 2 PACKS OPERATIONAL. THE REMAINING PACK VALVE CLOSED CAUSING THE CABIN ALT TO RISE. WE WERE UNABLE TO RESET THE PACK. AS A RESULT THE CABIN ALT AROSE TO 11000 FT AND WAS CLBING. CREW REQUESTED CLRNC TO 10000 FT. HOWEVER, ATC TOOK LONGER THAN WE WANTED TO STAY AT FL240. AN EMER WAS DECLARED. CREW EXERCISED MEMORY ITEMS FOR CABIN PRESSURIZATION BEING LOST AND EMER DSCNT. WE DSNDED TO 10000 FT, A DEV OF CLRNC. I AM SURE WE IMPACTED ARRS INTO DFW, BUT NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN BY ANY OTHER ACFT AT 10000 FT. WE CONTINUED TO HOUSTON AND AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG WAS MADE. NO ACFT DAMAGE. NO CABIN OR CREW MEMBER INJURIES. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: MAINT HAVING 1 OPERATIONAL PACK. ATC'S CONCERN FOR INBOUND TFC -- DULY NOTED AND UNDERSTOOD. ACFT WAS GIVEN TO MAINT TO REPAIR PACKS AND PRESSURIZATION SYS AND TO INSPECT ACFT FOR DAMAGE. ALL CHKLISTS WERE COMPLIED WITH. CREW EXERCISED ALL ACTIONS AND PERFORMED IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRAINING STANDARDS FOR SUCH AN EVENT TO KEEP PAX SAFE. RECOMMENDATION: EICAS MESSAGES WHEN OPERATING ON 1 PACK SHOULD BE A CAUTION MESSAGE IF BOTH PACK VALVES CLOSE. IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD A CAUTION MESSAGE 'PACK 1-2 VALVE CLOSED' WE COULD HAVE HAD MORE TIME TO DSND!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.