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Attributes | |
ACN | 515731 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : buf.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 11100 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 515731 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Pit tower reported runway 10C RVR as 500 ft touchdown, 600 ft mid, 500 ft rollout. Commercial chart 20-9 page listed air carrier visibility minimums as 500 ft touchdown, 500 ft mid, 500 ft rollout. Knowing our operations specifications permitted lower than standard takeoff minimums, I accepted the takeoff clearance and departed uneventfully. Later examination of company operations manual showed visibility minimums on specific runway commercial page to be approved, however, 600 ft was lowest detail information in manual. I knew the change to commercial information was recent regarding change from 600 ft to 500 ft. However, I was unsure if company operations specifications have changed or if change of FAA docs permitted acrs to change immediately to 500 ft. Clarification or coordination of revisions to commercial information and company operations manual would eliminate this discrepancy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-500 CREW HAD TKOF BELOW MINIMUMS AT PIT.
Narrative: PIT TWR RPTED RWY 10C RVR AS 500 FT TOUCHDOWN, 600 FT MID, 500 FT ROLLOUT. COMMERCIAL CHART 20-9 PAGE LISTED ACR VISIBILITY MINIMUMS AS 500 FT TOUCHDOWN, 500 FT MID, 500 FT ROLLOUT. KNOWING OUR OPS SPECS PERMITTED LOWER THAN STANDARD TKOF MINIMUMS, I ACCEPTED THE TKOF CLRNC AND DEPARTED UNEVENTFULLY. LATER EXAMINATION OF COMPANY OPS MANUAL SHOWED VISIBILITY MINIMUMS ON SPECIFIC RWY COMMERCIAL PAGE TO BE APPROVED, HOWEVER, 600 FT WAS LOWEST DETAIL INFO IN MANUAL. I KNEW THE CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL INFO WAS RECENT REGARDING CHANGE FROM 600 FT TO 500 FT. HOWEVER, I WAS UNSURE IF COMPANY OPS SPECS HAVE CHANGED OR IF CHANGE OF FAA DOCS PERMITTED ACRS TO CHANGE IMMEDIATELY TO 500 FT. CLARIFICATION OR COORD OF REVISIONS TO COMMERCIAL INFO AND COMPANY OPS MANUAL WOULD ELIMINATE THIS DISCREPANCY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.