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Attributes | |
ACN | 516356 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : mead 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 |
ASRS Report | 516356 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 515861 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : ecam other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Chart | sid : mead |
Narrative:
Departing las runway 25R, pre departure clearance indicated mead 2, maintain 7000 ft, expect 15000 ft 2 mins after departure. Approximately 5 mins later, crossing 280 degree radial at 7000 ft on autoplt, PNF selected 9000 ft on altitude command. Aircraft climbed above 7000 ft before departure control cleared us to 15000 ft, on course. Previous experience at this airport led crew to expect higher altitude before crossing 280 degree radial. A better course of action would have been to level at 7000 ft and discuss why PNF thought we were cleared to 9000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 515861: on takeoff we got an ECAM warning of an engine overtemp. We were flying the SID on navigation in close visual contact with preceding aircraft. We had visual traffic called out to us just as we leveled off. I, as PNF, briefly looked down and saw a 9000, at or above restr, which actually applied to a different runway's restr. I was thinking it was a clearance up to that altitude, so I dialed it into the altitude select window. The first officer questioned that, but was used to the normal clearance to 15000 ft as soon as we got to departure control. In the confusion of the moment, I forgot the original clearance to 7000 ft. Departure control said nothing and may not have even noticed we were climbing. To me the biggest problem was the multiple number of restrs from several runways on one commercial chart page.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A300 FLC, DISTR BY ECAM ENG OVERTEMP WARNING, CLB ABOVE LAS MEAD SID RESTR.
Narrative: DEPARTING LAS RWY 25R, PDC INDICATED MEAD 2, MAINTAIN 7000 FT, EXPECT 15000 FT 2 MINS AFTER DEP. APPROX 5 MINS LATER, XING 280 DEG RADIAL AT 7000 FT ON AUTOPLT, PNF SELECTED 9000 FT ON ALT COMMAND. ACFT CLBED ABOVE 7000 FT BEFORE DEP CTL CLRED US TO 15000 FT, ON COURSE. PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AT THIS ARPT LED CREW TO EXPECT HIGHER ALT BEFORE XING 280 DEG RADIAL. A BETTER COURSE OF ACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO LEVEL AT 7000 FT AND DISCUSS WHY PNF THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED TO 9000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 515861: ON TKOF WE GOT AN ECAM WARNING OF AN ENG OVERTEMP. WE WERE FLYING THE SID ON NAV IN CLOSE VISUAL CONTACT WITH PRECEDING ACFT. WE HAD VISUAL TFC CALLED OUT TO US JUST AS WE LEVELED OFF. I, AS PNF, BRIEFLY LOOKED DOWN AND SAW A 9000, AT OR ABOVE RESTR, WHICH ACTUALLY APPLIED TO A DIFFERENT RWY'S RESTR. I WAS THINKING IT WAS A CLRNC UP TO THAT ALT, SO I DIALED IT INTO THE ALT SELECT WINDOW. THE FO QUESTIONED THAT, BUT WAS USED TO THE NORMAL CLRNC TO 15000 FT AS SOON AS WE GOT TO DEP CTL. IN THE CONFUSION OF THE MOMENT, I FORGOT THE ORIGINAL CLRNC TO 7000 FT. DEP CTL SAID NOTHING AND MAY NOT HAVE EVEN NOTICED WE WERE CLBING. TO ME THE BIGGEST PROB WAS THE MULTIPLE NUMBER OF RESTRS FROM SEVERAL RWYS ON ONE COMMERCIAL CHART PAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.