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A low time private pilot in a C172 comes too close to skydivers when she departs after a jump has been announced and jumpers in sight at gre, il.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 516865 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200107 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gre.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 14 flight time total : 164 flight time type : 160 |
| ASRS Report | 516865 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : skydivers non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 900 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I knew that jumpers were jumping at greenville. I was listening to CTAF and I heard that they were off. I had heard that when the jumpers jumped they avoided flying directly over the runway. I was ready for takeoff on runway 18 and I had visual contact with the jumpers. They looked plenty high for me to go ahead and take off. I thought that since I had them in sight I could proceed. By the time I got to the end of the takeoff roll, they were a lot closer and directly over the runway. I guess the major cause of the problem was that I got impatient. They looked like they were moving slowly and I thought I had plenty of time. I should have just waited. Additionally, I shouldn't have taken hearsay for fact concerning the operation of the jumpers. I should have verified. I also shouldn't have thought that just because the jumpers looked slow that they were. I am not normally operating around jumpers, and I am always nervous and unsure of proper procedures. I guess the next step for me is to talk to an instructor about jumping operations. It would be nice if jumpers published a flyer or something and hung it at the airport where they operate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A LOW TIME PVT PLT IN A C172 COMES TOO CLOSE TO SKYDIVERS WHEN SHE DEPARTS AFTER A JUMP HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED AND JUMPERS IN SIGHT AT GRE, IL.
Narrative: I KNEW THAT JUMPERS WERE JUMPING AT GREENVILLE. I WAS LISTENING TO CTAF AND I HEARD THAT THEY WERE OFF. I HAD HEARD THAT WHEN THE JUMPERS JUMPED THEY AVOIDED FLYING DIRECTLY OVER THE RWY. I WAS READY FOR TKOF ON RWY 18 AND I HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE JUMPERS. THEY LOOKED PLENTY HIGH FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE OFF. I THOUGHT THAT SINCE I HAD THEM IN SIGHT I COULD PROCEED. BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE END OF THE TKOF ROLL, THEY WERE A LOT CLOSER AND DIRECTLY OVER THE RWY. I GUESS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF THE PROB WAS THAT I GOT IMPATIENT. THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE MOVING SLOWLY AND I THOUGHT I HAD PLENTY OF TIME. I SHOULD HAVE JUST WAITED. ADDITIONALLY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN HEARSAY FOR FACT CONCERNING THE OP OF THE JUMPERS. I SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED. I ALSO SHOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT JUST BECAUSE THE JUMPERS LOOKED SLOW THAT THEY WERE. I AM NOT NORMALLY OPERATING AROUND JUMPERS, AND I AM ALWAYS NERVOUS AND UNSURE OF PROPER PROCS. I GUESS THE NEXT STEP FOR ME IS TO TALK TO AN INSTRUCTOR ABOUT JUMPING OPS. IT WOULD BE NICE IF JUMPERS PUBLISHED A FLYER OR SOMETHING AND HUNG IT AT THE ARPT WHERE THEY OPERATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.