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Attributes | |
ACN | 517442 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jnu.airport |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl single value : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jnu.tower tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 517442 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure FAA Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were flying the RNAV runway 26 approach to juneau. At marnm we reported our position and intentions to VFR traffic on frequency 123.05. We also were told to report 'trawl' by juneau tower (118.7) for landing clearance. After we made our report on the common traffic frequency (123.05) we heard a report from a flight of five helo's that intended to cross the gastineau channel at 2000 ft over the city of juneau. I estimated that we would be close to that altitude abeam juneau and made an announcement of 123.05 to that effect. I received no response. Although reported WX at the juneau airport was approximately 3400 ft broken with good visibility, we were IMC until about 1800 ft to 2000 ft we picked up the helo's on TCAS and we concerned that they were near our altitude. As we 'broke out' of the clouds visibility was restricted at times by rain and mist. I picked up the 1ST helo visually above us and started to acquire the in-trail helo's climbing across our path. As I had ground contact I directed the pilot flying to disengage the autopilot and descend. At the same time we received a couple 'TA's' and then an 'RA' to descend. The helicopters appeared to be just below the ragged overcast with in trail birds climbing to 2000 ft across our path. Procedure's need to be re-established and re-enforced regarding deconflicting IFR and VFR traffic in this narrow corridor (gasineau channel). Announcements on a frequency is not enough. The helicopters were probably following noise abatement procedures which conflict with our instrument approaches and departures into juneau. The surrounding terrain makes maneuvering very difficult in a situation like this and it's a non-radar environment. The TCAS system was certainly a major factor in our situational awareness and avoidance of a significant near or actual mid-air threat.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 AND FLT OF FIVE HELO'S HAD LESS THEN LEGAL SPACING IN GASTINEAU CHANNEL WHILE FLYING THE RWY 26 R-NAV APCH TO JNU.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE RNAV RWY 26 APPROACH TO JUNEAU. AT MARNM WE RPTED OUR POS AND INTENTIONS TO VFR TFC ON FREQ 123.05. WE ALSO WERE TOLD TO RPT 'TRAWL' BY JUNEAU TWR (118.7) FOR LNDG CLRNC. AFTER WE MADE OUR RPT ON THE COMMON TFC FREQ (123.05) WE HEARD A RPT FROM A FLT OF FIVE HELO'S THAT INTENDED TO CROSS THE GASTINEAU CHANNEL AT 2000 FT OVER THE CITY OF JUNEAU. I ESTIMATED THAT WE WOULD BE CLOSE TO THAT ALTITUDE ABEAM JUNEAU AND MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF 123.05 TO THAT EFFECT. I RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. ALTHOUGH RPTED WX AT THE JUNEAU ARPT WAS APPROX 3400 FT BROKEN WITH GOOD VISIBILITY, WE WERE IMC UNTIL ABOUT 1800 FT TO 2000 FT WE PICKED UP THE HELO'S ON TCAS AND WE CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE NEAR OUR ALTITUDE. AS WE 'BROKE OUT' OF THE CLOUDS VISIBILITY WAS RESTRICTED AT TIMES BY RAIN AND MIST. I PICKED UP THE 1ST HELO VISUALLY ABOVE US AND STARTED TO ACQUIRE THE IN-TRAIL HELO'S CLIMBING ACROSS OUR PATH. AS I HAD GND CONTACT I DIRECTED THE PLT FLYING TO DISENGAGE THE AUTOPILOT AND DESCEND. AT THE SAME TIME WE RECEIVED A COUPLE 'TA'S' AND THEN AN 'RA' TO DESCEND. THE HELICOPTERS APPEARED TO BE JUST BELOW THE RAGGED OVERCAST WITH IN TRAIL BIRDS CLIMBING TO 2000 FT ACROSS OUR PATH. PROC'S NEED TO BE RE-ESTABLISHED AND RE-ENFORCED REGARDING DECONFLICTING IFR AND VFR TFC IN THIS NARROW CORRIDOR (GASINEAU CHANNEL). ANNOUNCEMENTS ON A FREQ IS NOT ENOUGH. THE HELICOPTERS WERE PROBABLY FOLLOWING NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES WHICH CONFLICT WITH OUR INSTRUMENT APPROACHES AND DEPARTURES INTO JUNEAU. THE SURROUNDING TERRAIN MAKES MANEUVERING VERY DIFFICULT IN A SIT LIKE THIS AND IT'S A NON-RADAR ENVIRONMENT. THE TCAS SYSTEM WAS CERTAINLY A MAJOR FACTOR IN OUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND AVOIDANCE OF A SIGNIFICANT NEAR OR ACTUAL MID-AIR THREAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.