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PA27 pilot did not comply with standard position reporting in a non radar environment in ZMP class east airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 519078 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200107 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : eau.vortac |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-23-250 Aztec |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 519078 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon leaving oshkosh, I picked up my IFR clearance in the air over ste VOR. Initially I was told I was in radar contact, then he said 'oops, he lost me.' I continued west on my filed route direct eau direct microphone. The controller asked me my position at approximately 35 DME west of ste VOR, and I continued on. As I was crossing eau VOR, I was asked to report 15 DME west of eau, which I did. The controller then said I was to have reported 15 mi east of eau VOR. I said that I received his instructions to report 15 DME as I was crossing eau VOR and understood him to want 15 DME west. He said that I was not in radar contact and that I was automatically to report eau VOR upon crossing. No further discussion followed and the flight continued uneventfully to microphone. Contributing factors to this event include being accustomed to nearly constant radar contact and the non reporting that accompanies it and in the event of no radar contact, being asked well in advance to report a fix upon crossing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA27 PLT DID NOT COMPLY WITH STANDARD POS RPTING IN A NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT IN ZMP CLASS E AIRSPACE.
Narrative: UPON LEAVING OSHKOSH, I PICKED UP MY IFR CLRNC IN THE AIR OVER STE VOR. INITIALLY I WAS TOLD I WAS IN RADAR CONTACT, THEN HE SAID 'OOPS, HE LOST ME.' I CONTINUED W ON MY FILED RTE DIRECT EAU DIRECT MIC. THE CTLR ASKED ME MY POS AT APPROX 35 DME W OF STE VOR, AND I CONTINUED ON. AS I WAS XING EAU VOR, I WAS ASKED TO RPT 15 DME W OF EAU, WHICH I DID. THE CTLR THEN SAID I WAS TO HAVE RPTED 15 MI E OF EAU VOR. I SAID THAT I RECEIVED HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO RPT 15 DME AS I WAS XING EAU VOR AND UNDERSTOOD HIM TO WANT 15 DME W. HE SAID THAT I WAS NOT IN RADAR CONTACT AND THAT I WAS AUTOMATICALLY TO RPT EAU VOR UPON XING. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION FOLLOWED AND THE FLT CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY TO MIC. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS EVENT INCLUDE BEING ACCUSTOMED TO NEARLY CONSTANT RADAR CONTACT AND THE NON RPTING THAT ACCOMPANIES IT AND IN THE EVENT OF NO RADAR CONTACT, BEING ASKED WELL IN ADVANCE TO RPT A FIX UPON XING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.