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Attributes | |
ACN | 519188 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ebbr.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ebbr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ebbr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
ASRS Report | 519188 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 519174 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other incursion : runway other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
While taxiing for takeoff at brussels, belgium, clearance was given by ground control to cross runway 20 at taxiway E4. This was a change from a previous clearance to taxi on outer 8 and hold short of runway 20 at E5. The first officer was talking on the ground frequency and asked ground to confirm that we were clear to cross! The captain and international relief officer were monitoring the frequency and understood 'clear to cross runway 20 and control tower on the other side.' we checked final approach and observed a turboprop on about a 3 mi final. As we crossed the runway, we observed the turboprop on the go around. There was plenty of room for the airplane on final to land. Upon changing to tower, they told us we were not cleared to cross. The first officer stated that we were cleared to cross by ground and had verified our clearance prior to crossing and that all 3 of the cockpit crew understood that we were cleared to cross. I have no suggestion on how to prevent a recurrence except to say that language and accent may have been a barrier. Supplemental information from acn 519174: on taxi out, with first officer on radio, ground control's original instruction was full length of runway 25R via outer 8 and E5 to hold short of runway 20. After 1 aircraft exited runway 20 at E4, ground revised instructions to E4. I then understood cleared to cross runway 20 at E4 and call tower on 118.6. First officer asked again, and again I understood we were cleared to cross runway 20. Prior to crossing, the first officer stated 'clear right.' I and captain looked left. Traffic was on final for runway 20, but ample time to safely cross runway 20 existed. As we cleared runway 20 onto F4, all 3 crew members noted the traffic on final to runway 20 commencing a go around. After a few mins on 118.6, the tower called us saying we had not been cleared to cross 20. First officer replied we had. Tower again said we had not and had caused a go around. I would like to hear the tapes. I understood, twice, we had a crossing clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767-200 CREW HAD RWY INCURSION AT EBBR.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING FOR TKOF AT BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, CLRNC WAS GIVEN BY GND CTL TO CROSS RWY 20 AT TXWY E4. THIS WAS A CHANGE FROM A PREVIOUS CLRNC TO TAXI ON OUTER 8 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 20 AT E5. THE FO WAS TALKING ON THE GND FREQ AND ASKED GND TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE CLR TO CROSS! THE CAPT AND INTL RELIEF OFFICER WERE MONITORING THE FREQ AND UNDERSTOOD 'CLR TO CROSS RWY 20 AND CTL TWR ON THE OTHER SIDE.' WE CHKED FINAL APCH AND OBSERVED A TURBOPROP ON ABOUT A 3 MI FINAL. AS WE CROSSED THE RWY, WE OBSERVED THE TURBOPROP ON THE GAR. THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THE AIRPLANE ON FINAL TO LAND. UPON CHANGING TO TWR, THEY TOLD US WE WERE NOT CLRED TO CROSS. THE FO STATED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS BY GND AND HAD VERIFIED OUR CLRNC PRIOR TO XING AND THAT ALL 3 OF THE COCKPIT CREW UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS. I HAVE NO SUGGESTION ON HOW TO PREVENT A RECURRENCE EXCEPT TO SAY THAT LANGUAGE AND ACCENT MAY HAVE BEEN A BARRIER. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 519174: ON TAXI OUT, WITH FO ON RADIO, GND CTL'S ORIGINAL INSTRUCTION WAS FULL LENGTH OF RWY 25R VIA OUTER 8 AND E5 TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 20. AFTER 1 ACFT EXITED RWY 20 AT E4, GND REVISED INSTRUCTIONS TO E4. I THEN UNDERSTOOD CLRED TO CROSS RWY 20 AT E4 AND CALL TWR ON 118.6. FO ASKED AGAIN, AND AGAIN I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 20. PRIOR TO XING, THE FO STATED 'CLR R.' I AND CAPT LOOKED L. TFC WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 20, BUT AMPLE TIME TO SAFELY CROSS RWY 20 EXISTED. AS WE CLRED RWY 20 ONTO F4, ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS NOTED THE TFC ON FINAL TO RWY 20 COMMENCING A GAR. AFTER A FEW MINS ON 118.6, THE TWR CALLED US SAYING WE HAD NOT BEEN CLRED TO CROSS 20. FO REPLIED WE HAD. TWR AGAIN SAID WE HAD NOT AND HAD CAUSED A GAR. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE TAPES. I UNDERSTOOD, TWICE, WE HAD A XING CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.