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Attributes | |
ACN | 520084 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dbl.vor |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 520084 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On jul/tue/01, we departed ase to stp, it was a non revenue flight. The captain was flying. He turned to a 270 degree heading to intercept the back course. I noticed he had his HSI set up wrong. He had reversed sensing for the back course. At that moment the controller provided radar vectors. I did not make a comment about it at that time, concerned about his explosive temper at a critical phase of flight. On aug/wed/01, we were flying from hou to ase, the captain was flying with the autoplt on in cruise flight. I took out the ase departure and told him that I noticed that he had reverse sensing when we departed ase on his HSI. He told me, that is how it was supposed to be, and that is what the back course button on the mode select panel was for, this aircraft does not have a back course button. I stated, on an HSI you should never have reverse sensing and that the back course button was the same as the approach mode, but ignores any false GS sensing. He stated that I was wrong. I told him that I was correct, and the reason he had the wrong course was that he did not realize the unusual features of the departures of the back course to intercept, and we were flying away from the back course transmitter, not to it. He insisted that 120 degrees was the front course. I told him he was incorrect and that 300 degrees was the front course. His face puckered up, and he yelled at me. He always gives CFI little tests and tells me 'to go look it up!' I told him I knew where to look it up, and since I wanted the instruments set up for the go around and the departure to be correct, I offered to bet $100 to convince him I was correct. After that, he still claimed I was wrong, and suggested we try it at 300 degrees to prove I was wrong. On aug/thu/01 we departed ase for den and it was a non revenue flight. We had the instruments set up on 300 degrees for the departure. He looked at me, and smirked at me, and stated that the HSI was set at 300 degrees, and we took off. During the departure, when the instruments worked correctly, his face started to tense up. Then we were cleared to dbl VOR to intercept the 093 degree outbound at 17000 ft. At approximately 10 DME outbound, the captain asked for runway 10L. I called ZDV and asked for runway 10L for WX. The controller said 'stand by.' the captain puckered up his face, keyed the microphone, with an angry voice and aggressively stated, 'we're going runway 10L now!' he disconnected the autoplt, and turned runway 10L. I called '100 ft high,' then he yelled at me to fix the radar. I followed his command and said, 'you're 200 ft high,' he acknowledged. Then I said, 'you're 300 ft high,' and he acknowledged. Next, another aircraft complained about our altitude on their TCASII. The controller from ZDV, in an aggravated tone, stated that our altitude was at 17300 ft to the other aircraft. The aircraft again complained about our aircraft. I called, 'you're 400 ft high, get back on your altitude.' the captain ignored my call, then I said 'go back to your altitude, I don't want to lose my pilot's license.' after that he descended to his assigned altitude of 17000 ft. End of event. I did not take control of the aircraft because the captain is confrontational and explosive. I tried to use CRM to get the captain back to his altitude. It appeared to me that the captain wanted to show the controller that he was the boss and could do whatever he desired, without consequence. In the pilot's lounge in denver, I discussed the events that occurred with him, and suggested we complete a NASA report. He stated he was not going to fill out a NASA report. I said I was going to fill out the NASA report, and the conversation ended.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN H25B CREW DEPARTING ASE TURNED 10 DEGS FROM ASSIGNED COURSE WITHOUT CLRNC. DURING THE MANEUVER THEIR ASSIGNED ALT WAS OVERSHOT BY 400 FT!
Narrative: ON JUL/TUE/01, WE DEPARTED ASE TO STP, IT WAS A NON REVENUE FLT. THE CAPT WAS FLYING. HE TURNED TO A 270 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE BACK COURSE. I NOTICED HE HAD HIS HSI SET UP WRONG. HE HAD REVERSED SENSING FOR THE BACK COURSE. AT THAT MOMENT THE CTLR PROVIDED RADAR VECTORS. I DID NOT MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME, CONCERNED ABOUT HIS EXPLOSIVE TEMPER AT A CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT. ON AUG/WED/01, WE WERE FLYING FROM HOU TO ASE, THE CAPT WAS FLYING WITH THE AUTOPLT ON IN CRUISE FLT. I TOOK OUT THE ASE DEP AND TOLD HIM THAT I NOTICED THAT HE HAD REVERSE SENSING WHEN WE DEPARTED ASE ON HIS HSI. HE TOLD ME, THAT IS HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THAT IS WHAT THE BACK COURSE BUTTON ON THE MODE SELECT PANEL WAS FOR, THIS ACFT DOES NOT HAVE A BACK COURSE BUTTON. I STATED, ON AN HSI YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE REVERSE SENSING AND THAT THE BACK COURSE BUTTON WAS THE SAME AS THE APCH MODE, BUT IGNORES ANY FALSE GS SENSING. HE STATED THAT I WAS WRONG. I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS CORRECT, AND THE REASON HE HAD THE WRONG COURSE WAS THAT HE DID NOT REALIZE THE UNUSUAL FEATURES OF THE DEPS OF THE BACK COURSE TO INTERCEPT, AND WE WERE FLYING AWAY FROM THE BACK COURSE XMITTER, NOT TO IT. HE INSISTED THAT 120 DEGS WAS THE FRONT COURSE. I TOLD HIM HE WAS INCORRECT AND THAT 300 DEGS WAS THE FRONT COURSE. HIS FACE PUCKERED UP, AND HE YELLED AT ME. HE ALWAYS GIVES CFI LITTLE TESTS AND TELLS ME 'TO GO LOOK IT UP!' I TOLD HIM I KNEW WHERE TO LOOK IT UP, AND SINCE I WANTED THE INSTS SET UP FOR THE GAR AND THE DEP TO BE CORRECT, I OFFERED TO BET $100 TO CONVINCE HIM I WAS CORRECT. AFTER THAT, HE STILL CLAIMED I WAS WRONG, AND SUGGESTED WE TRY IT AT 300 DEGS TO PROVE I WAS WRONG. ON AUG/THU/01 WE DEPARTED ASE FOR DEN AND IT WAS A NON REVENUE FLT. WE HAD THE INSTS SET UP ON 300 DEGS FOR THE DEP. HE LOOKED AT ME, AND SMIRKED AT ME, AND STATED THAT THE HSI WAS SET AT 300 DEGS, AND WE TOOK OFF. DURING THE DEP, WHEN THE INSTS WORKED CORRECTLY, HIS FACE STARTED TO TENSE UP. THEN WE WERE CLRED TO DBL VOR TO INTERCEPT THE 093 DEG OUTBOUND AT 17000 FT. AT APPROX 10 DME OUTBOUND, THE CAPT ASKED FOR RWY 10L. I CALLED ZDV AND ASKED FOR RWY 10L FOR WX. THE CTLR SAID 'STAND BY.' THE CAPT PUCKERED UP HIS FACE, KEYED THE MIKE, WITH AN ANGRY VOICE AND AGGRESSIVELY STATED, 'WE'RE GOING RWY 10L NOW!' HE DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, AND TURNED RWY 10L. I CALLED '100 FT HIGH,' THEN HE YELLED AT ME TO FIX THE RADAR. I FOLLOWED HIS COMMAND AND SAID, 'YOU'RE 200 FT HIGH,' HE ACKNOWLEDGED. THEN I SAID, 'YOU'RE 300 FT HIGH,' AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED. NEXT, ANOTHER ACFT COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR ALT ON THEIR TCASII. THE CTLR FROM ZDV, IN AN AGGRAVATED TONE, STATED THAT OUR ALT WAS AT 17300 FT TO THE OTHER ACFT. THE ACFT AGAIN COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR ACFT. I CALLED, 'YOU'RE 400 FT HIGH, GET BACK ON YOUR ALT.' THE CAPT IGNORED MY CALL, THEN I SAID 'GO BACK TO YOUR ALT, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY PLT'S LICENSE.' AFTER THAT HE DSNDED TO HIS ASSIGNED ALT OF 17000 FT. END OF EVENT. I DID NOT TAKE CTL OF THE ACFT BECAUSE THE CAPT IS CONFRONTATIONAL AND EXPLOSIVE. I TRIED TO USE CRM TO GET THE CAPT BACK TO HIS ALT. IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THE CAPT WANTED TO SHOW THE CTLR THAT HE WAS THE BOSS AND COULD DO WHATEVER HE DESIRED, WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. IN THE PLT'S LOUNGE IN DENVER, I DISCUSSED THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED WITH HIM, AND SUGGESTED WE COMPLETE A NASA RPT. HE STATED HE WAS NOT GOING TO FILL OUT A NASA RPT. I SAID I WAS GOING TO FILL OUT THE NASA RPT, AND THE CONVERSATION ENDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.