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Attributes | |
ACN | 523050 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4600 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 523050 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Aug/xa/01 dca airport, XA15. EMB145 XXXX outbound to columbus, oh. Received taxi clearance from ground controller to taxi and hold short of runway 15 on taxiway south and complied with. While holding short we 'thought' we were given clearance to cross runway 15 and monitor tower frequency. Unfortunately, when we switched the frequency to tower, tower controller advised us to contact them via phone when we got to our destination. After the phone conversation with tower manager, we were informed -- or should I say I was informed by the captain of the flight XXXX -- that I crossed without clearance, and that the transmission clearance was for airlines DC9 flight xx or xxa. I do not exactly remember, that was holding on taxiway J short of runway 15. We both came to a conclusion that the similarity of the flight number as well as the saturation and frequency blocking, as well as many flts on the ground caused this misunderstanding, and no action was required. I am taking responsibility for too many things happening on my flight, given the short taxi time with checklist to be done contributed to this. However, the frequency saturation was the main contributor I believe. For the record, my first officer replied back by stating 'aircraft XXXX crossing runway 15 monitor tower' without correction from ground, because of the saturation and by the time we crossed and switched to tower, we did not hear anything from ground controller. I think some kind of device to protect blocking the frequency would have been very helpful in cases like this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E145 CREW CROSSED A RWY ON A CLRNC THEY THOUGHT WAS MEANT FOR THEM.
Narrative: AUG/XA/01 DCA ARPT, XA15. EMB145 XXXX OUTBOUND TO COLUMBUS, OH. RECEIVED TAXI CLRNC FROM GND CTLR TO TAXI AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 15 ON TXWY S AND COMPLIED WITH. WHILE HOLDING SHORT WE 'THOUGHT' WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 15 AND MONITOR TWR FREQ. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE SWITCHED THE FREQ TO TWR, TWR CTLR ADVISED US TO CONTACT THEM VIA PHONE WHEN WE GOT TO OUR DEST. AFTER THE PHONE CONVERSATION WITH TWR MGR, WE WERE INFORMED -- OR SHOULD I SAY I WAS INFORMED BY THE CAPT OF THE FLT XXXX -- THAT I CROSSED WITHOUT CLRNC, AND THAT THE XMISSION CLRNC WAS FOR AIRLINES DC9 FLT XX OR XXA. I DO NOT EXACTLY REMEMBER, THAT WAS HOLDING ON TXWY J SHORT OF RWY 15. WE BOTH CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT THE SIMILARITY OF THE FLT NUMBER AS WELL AS THE SATURATION AND FREQ BLOCKING, AS WELL AS MANY FLTS ON THE GND CAUSED THIS MISUNDERSTANDING, AND NO ACTION WAS REQUIRED. I AM TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR TOO MANY THINGS HAPPENING ON MY FLT, GIVEN THE SHORT TAXI TIME WITH CHKLIST TO BE DONE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. HOWEVER, THE FREQ SATURATION WAS THE MAIN CONTRIBUTOR I BELIEVE. FOR THE RECORD, MY FO REPLIED BACK BY STATING 'ACFT XXXX XING RWY 15 MONITOR TWR' WITHOUT CORRECTION FROM GND, BECAUSE OF THE SATURATION AND BY THE TIME WE CROSSED AND SWITCHED TO TWR, WE DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING FROM GND CTLR. I THINK SOME KIND OF DEVICE TO PROTECT BLOCKING THE FREQ WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN CASES LIKE THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.