37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 523470 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lfd.vor |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 203 flight time total : 3650 flight time type : 265 |
ASRS Report | 523470 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I joined the captain at XXX to fly a reserve pairing: XXX to XXX to XXX. This was my leg to fly. Ground operations, takeoff, and initial departure were normal. Proceeding east from XXX, we were switched to ZAU (frequency 127.55). Center then cleared us to climb from an intermediate altitude to a higher altitude. I was flying the aircraft and do not recall hearing the altitude assigned by center. However, the captain (PNF) acknowledged the call, reading back that we were cleared to FL230. He then entered 23000 ft into the MCP altitude window. I then pointed at the window and acknowledged 'FL230.' at approximately XA00, I began leveling out of FL230. At this time, center asked, 'at what altitude are you going to stop your climb?' the captain replied that we were filed to FL230, and that altitude was fine for us. After his answer, and no reply from center, we discussed in the cockpit, thinking that was an unusual question from center. The captain then asked center if FL230 had been our assigned altitude. Center then replied that we had been cleared to FL210. The captain then queried as to whether a report was required, and the controller responded, 'no.' both the captain and I decided to submit as soon as possible reports anyway (incident occurred approximately 50 NM west of lfd). While I am not positive regarding the altitude specified in center's initial altitude assignment radio call, I am certain that the captain read back a clearance to FL230, entered it correctly into the MCP altitude window, and that I acknowledged his readback at FL230. If his readback was incorrect, center did not note the incorrect readback or offer a correction. Recommendation: closer monitoring by both pilots of all ATC xmissions, querying the controller if uncertain as to the clearance, and better monitoring of pilot clearance readbacks by ATC controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER CLBING TO FL230, A B737 CREW LEARNS THEY HAD ONLY BEEN CLRED TO FL210.
Narrative: I JOINED THE CAPT AT XXX TO FLY A RESERVE PAIRING: XXX TO XXX TO XXX. THIS WAS MY LEG TO FLY. GND OPS, TKOF, AND INITIAL DEP WERE NORMAL. PROCEEDING E FROM XXX, WE WERE SWITCHED TO ZAU (FREQ 127.55). CTR THEN CLRED US TO CLB FROM AN INTERMEDIATE ALT TO A HIGHER ALT. I WAS FLYING THE ACFT AND DO NOT RECALL HEARING THE ALT ASSIGNED BY CTR. HOWEVER, THE CAPT (PNF) ACKNOWLEDGED THE CALL, READING BACK THAT WE WERE CLRED TO FL230. HE THEN ENTERED 23000 FT INTO THE MCP ALT WINDOW. I THEN POINTED AT THE WINDOW AND ACKNOWLEDGED 'FL230.' AT APPROX XA00, I BEGAN LEVELING OUT OF FL230. AT THIS TIME, CTR ASKED, 'AT WHAT ALT ARE YOU GOING TO STOP YOUR CLB?' THE CAPT REPLIED THAT WE WERE FILED TO FL230, AND THAT ALT WAS FINE FOR US. AFTER HIS ANSWER, AND NO REPLY FROM CTR, WE DISCUSSED IN THE COCKPIT, THINKING THAT WAS AN UNUSUAL QUESTION FROM CTR. THE CAPT THEN ASKED CTR IF FL230 HAD BEEN OUR ASSIGNED ALT. CTR THEN REPLIED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL210. THE CAPT THEN QUERIED AS TO WHETHER A RPT WAS REQUIRED, AND THE CTLR RESPONDED, 'NO.' BOTH THE CAPT AND I DECIDED TO SUBMIT ASAP RPTS ANYWAY (INCIDENT OCCURRED APPROX 50 NM W OF LFD). WHILE I AM NOT POSITIVE REGARDING THE ALT SPECIFIED IN CTR'S INITIAL ALT ASSIGNMENT RADIO CALL, I AM CERTAIN THAT THE CAPT READ BACK A CLRNC TO FL230, ENTERED IT CORRECTLY INTO THE MCP ALT WINDOW, AND THAT I ACKNOWLEDGED HIS READBACK AT FL230. IF HIS READBACK WAS INCORRECT, CTR DID NOT NOTE THE INCORRECT READBACK OR OFFER A CORRECTION. RECOMMENDATION: CLOSER MONITORING BY BOTH PLTS OF ALL ATC XMISSIONS, QUERYING THE CTLR IF UNCERTAIN AS TO THE CLRNC, AND BETTER MONITORING OF PLT CLRNC READBACKS BY ATC CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.