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Attributes | |
ACN | 525502 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 525502 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 525871 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon changeover from new york approach to the local newark approach controller, we apparently took someone else's altitude change. We checked in to newark approach level at 6000 ft. Our call sign was air carrier X. Immediately after I unkeyed the microphone after checking in, the approach controller responded 'air carrier X descend to 3000 ft.' we replied 'air carrier X, descending to 3000 ft.' the controller did not respond, and went on to other aircraft. The frequency was extremely busy as usual on newark approach. About 1.4 mins later, controller called us 'air carrier X, looks like you took someone else's clearance, no problem, remain at 3000 ft.' no separation problems occurred -- just radio confusion on a busy frequency. Supplemental information from acn 523871: changed radio frequency at 5000 ft MSL. Controller was busy and talking fast. When first officer reported in, I heard or thought I heard 'air carrier X descend to 3000 ft.' the first officer read back the new clearance 'air carrier X to 3000 ft.' leveling at 3000 ft, controller stated that we must have taken someone else's clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 CREW, DSNDING INTO EWR, RESPONDED TO ANOTHER ACFT'S CLRNC.
Narrative: UPON CHANGEOVER FROM NEW YORK APCH TO THE LCL NEWARK APCH CTLR, WE APPARENTLY TOOK SOMEONE ELSE'S ALT CHANGE. WE CHKED IN TO NEWARK APCH LEVEL AT 6000 FT. OUR CALL SIGN WAS ACR X. IMMEDIATELY AFTER I UNKEYED THE MIKE AFTER CHKING IN, THE APCH CTLR RESPONDED 'ACR X DSND TO 3000 FT.' WE REPLIED 'ACR X, DSNDING TO 3000 FT.' THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND, AND WENT ON TO OTHER ACFT. THE FREQ WAS EXTREMELY BUSY AS USUAL ON NEWARK APCH. ABOUT 1.4 MINS LATER, CTLR CALLED US 'ACR X, LOOKS LIKE YOU TOOK SOMEONE ELSE'S CLRNC, NO PROB, REMAIN AT 3000 FT.' NO SEPARATION PROBS OCCURRED -- JUST RADIO CONFUSION ON A BUSY FREQ. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 523871: CHANGED RADIO FREQ AT 5000 FT MSL. CTLR WAS BUSY AND TALKING FAST. WHEN FO RPTED IN, I HEARD OR THOUGHT I HEARD 'ACR X DSND TO 3000 FT.' THE FO READ BACK THE NEW CLRNC 'ACR X TO 3000 FT.' LEVELING AT 3000 FT, CTLR STATED THAT WE MUST HAVE TAKEN SOMEONE ELSE'S CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.