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Attributes | |
ACN | 525790 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 525790 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On the initial call-up we were told to expect runway 4R at detroit. We are positive of this because neither of us knew dtw ever had a runway 4. After being cleared for the approach we figured out we had set up for runway 4 and they expected us to land runway 3. I asked him to clarify and we were given a visual approach. I don't know which approach the final controller cleared us for. But if there is a change from what we were given to expect I think they should make it very clear that this did change runways on you and make sure that you are aware of the change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN F-100 FLT CREW HAS CONCERN WITH A LAST MIN RWY CHANGE AND NOT BEING INFORMED ABOUT IT.
Narrative: ON THE INITIAL CALL-UP WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT RWY 4R AT DETROIT. WE ARE POSITIVE OF THIS BECAUSE NEITHER OF US KNEW DTW EVER HAD A RWY 4. AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE APCH WE FIGURED OUT WE HAD SET UP FOR RWY 4 AND THEY EXPECTED US TO LAND RWY 3. I ASKED HIM TO CLARIFY AND WE WERE GIVEN A VISUAL APCH. I DON'T KNOW WHICH APCH THE FINAL CTLR CLRED US FOR. BUT IF THERE IS A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE WERE GIVEN TO EXPECT I THINK THEY SHOULD MAKE IT VERY CLR THAT THIS DID CHANGE RWYS ON YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE CHANGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.