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Attributes | |
ACN | 525840 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ckb.vor |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29500 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 525840 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
ATC had us climbing to 31000 ft. As we were climbing through 29500 ft ATC asked us what altitude we were assigned. We said 31000 ft and he responded that didn't we get his amended revised altitude of 28000 ft? We said we did not. He said 'did you read back 2800 ft.' we said we did not. (Someone else must have read back 28000 ft.) he then said no problem but that he was going to check it out. We did not read back any clearance except our original of 31000 ft, and we also never heard him on our frequency ask anyone to amend altitude to 28000 ft. He must have said it on another frequency and someone else answered him mistakenly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 FLT CREW DIDN'T HEAR AN AMENDED ALT CHANGE FROM ZDC ARTCC.
Narrative: ATC HAD US CLBING TO 31000 FT. AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 29500 FT ATC ASKED US WHAT ALT WE WERE ASSIGNED. WE SAID 31000 FT AND HE RESPONDED THAT DIDN'T WE GET HIS AMENDED REVISED ALT OF 28000 FT? WE SAID WE DID NOT. HE SAID 'DID YOU READ BACK 2800 FT.' WE SAID WE DID NOT. (SOMEONE ELSE MUST HAVE READ BACK 28000 FT.) HE THEN SAID NO PROB BUT THAT HE WAS GOING TO CHK IT OUT. WE DID NOT READ BACK ANY CLRNC EXCEPT OUR ORIGINAL OF 31000 FT, AND WE ALSO NEVER HEARD HIM ON OUR FREQ ASK ANYONE TO AMEND ALT TO 28000 FT. HE MUST HAVE SAID IT ON ANOTHER FREQ AND SOMEONE ELSE ANSWERED HIM MISTAKENLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.