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Attributes | |
ACN | 526074 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : camrn |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Route In Use | arrival star : sie.camrn4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 290 |
ASRS Report | 526074 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On descent into jfk on the camrn arrival, I crossed camrn intersection at 14000 ft instead of the assigned altitude of 11000 ft. I was flying the STAR and centered on the 49 degree radial of sea isle. I misread the STAR and asked my copilot to tune 41 degrees into jfk VOR. He tuned in 41 degrees but selected the dpk VOR (proper for the arrival). I asked him to confirm that camrn was 37 DME off jfk VOR. He did confirm this for me. I continued the descent thinking I was reading DME off jfk VOR, instead of dpk VOR. Camrn is in fact 37 DME off jfk but 53 DME off dpk. When center called to ask our position (then 53 DME off dpk) I thought we still had 16 mi to reach our assigned crossing altitude. Center did not mention any conflicts. I am a new captain. I now know that I must double-check such questions myself before asking for concurrence. I also realize that I must ask for any information more clearly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-200 CREW DID NOT COMPLY WITH A STAR ALT XING RESTR ON THE CAMRN 4 INTO JFK.
Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO JFK ON THE CAMRN ARR, I CROSSED CAMRN INTXN AT 14000 FT INSTEAD OF THE ASSIGNED ALT OF 11000 FT. I WAS FLYING THE STAR AND CTRED ON THE 49 DEG RADIAL OF SEA ISLE. I MISREAD THE STAR AND ASKED MY COPLT TO TUNE 41 DEGS INTO JFK VOR. HE TUNED IN 41 DEGS BUT SELECTED THE DPK VOR (PROPER FOR THE ARR). I ASKED HIM TO CONFIRM THAT CAMRN WAS 37 DME OFF JFK VOR. HE DID CONFIRM THIS FOR ME. I CONTINUED THE DSCNT THINKING I WAS READING DME OFF JFK VOR, INSTEAD OF DPK VOR. CAMRN IS IN FACT 37 DME OFF JFK BUT 53 DME OFF DPK. WHEN CTR CALLED TO ASK OUR POS (THEN 53 DME OFF DPK) I THOUGHT WE STILL HAD 16 MI TO REACH OUR ASSIGNED XING ALT. CTR DID NOT MENTION ANY CONFLICTS. I AM A NEW CAPT. I NOW KNOW THAT I MUST DOUBLE-CHK SUCH QUESTIONS MYSELF BEFORE ASKING FOR CONCURRENCE. I ALSO REALIZE THAT I MUST ASK FOR ANY INFO MORE CLRLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.