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Attributes | |
ACN | 526799 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon tower : sna.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Canadair/Bombardier Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 526799 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : atl.tracon |
Narrative:
Atl approach was trying to clear us for a visual approach to runway 8L at katl. The sunrise made it impossible for us to see traffic to follow, or the airport. The controller gave us 'turn left to 360 degrees, climb and maintain 6000 ft' to bring us around for an ILS. While we were climbing through 5200 ft MSL approach said 'aircraft X, I need you at 4000 ft,' or something to that effect. Nothing else was said and we successfully completed the next approach. Factors were high workload for both of us and the controller, the blinding sunrise, and approach's desire to maximize landings. I have never had as many near gars due to close spacing than at katl.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 RJ FLC REPORT ON TFC VOLUME/CONGESTION AND GARS AT ATL, GA.
Narrative: ATL APCH WAS TRYING TO CLR US FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 8L AT KATL. THE SUNRISE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO SEE TFC TO FOLLOW, OR THE ARPT. THE CTLR GAVE US 'TURN LEFT TO 360 DEGS, CLIMB AND MAINTAIN 6000 FT' TO BRING US AROUND FOR AN ILS. WHILE WE WERE CLIMBING THROUGH 5200 FT MSL APCH SAID 'ACFT X, I NEED YOU AT 4000 FT,' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID AND WE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE NEXT APCH. FACTORS WERE HIGH WORKLOAD FOR BOTH OF US AND THE CTLR, THE BLINDING SUNRISE, AND APCH'S DESIRE TO MAXIMIZE LANDINGS. I HAVE NEVER HAD AS MANY NEAR GARS DUE TO CLOSE SPACING THAN AT KATL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.