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Attributes | |
ACN | 527073 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : elp.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Weather Elements | other |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : elp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : elp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 527073 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Environmental Factor Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
First officer flying pilot. Elp reported winds 330/29g37. Wind conditions made ILS 22 unfavorable, and we were cleared for the VOR/DME 26L. Visibility reported at 1 mi. Established inbound on the 245 degrees. The sun combined with the blowing dust resulted in us not being in position to land when we made visual on runway. We attempted a second approach with same result. I called missed approach, and told captain we should continue to alternate. The captain and engineer determined that our fuel status was ok for a third approach, and we got vectored for our third attempt with the captain as flying pilot. A B737 was at the same time on his second attempt and this delayed us further. At MDA on captain's approach, we were still not in position for straight in. But the dust was moving out, and the sun setting so visibility improved greatly. We could now do a visual with left downwind/base for runway 26L. We landed with 50 min fuel remaining. The captain's decision to attempt a third approach, and failing to consider the delay being vectored behind at low altitude, and added fuel burn, consumed the majority of our cruise fuel to alternate. Although we landed with legal IFR reserve, we should have continued to the alternate after our second approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 FIRST OFFICER RPT ON FUEL REMAINING AFTER MAKING A THIRD APCH TO GET INTO ELP, TX.
Narrative: FIRST OFFICER FLYING PLT. ELP RPTED WINDS 330/29G37. WIND CONDITIONS MADE ILS 22 UNFAVORABLE, AND WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VOR/DME 26L. VISIBILITY RPTED AT 1 MI. ESTABLISHED INBOUND ON THE 245 DEGS. THE SUN COMBINED WITH THE BLOWING DUST RESULTED IN US NOT BEING IN POS TO LAND WHEN WE MADE VISUAL ON RWY. WE ATTEMPTED A SECOND APCH WITH SAME RESULT. I CALLED MISSED APCH, AND TOLD CAPT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO ALTERNATE. THE CAPT AND ENGINEER DETERMINED THAT OUR FUEL STATUS WAS OK FOR A THIRD APCH, AND WE GOT VECTORED FOR OUR THIRD ATTEMPT WITH THE CAPT AS FLYING PLT. A B737 WAS AT THE SAME TIME ON HIS SECOND ATTEMPT AND THIS DELAYED US FURTHER. AT MDA ON CAPT'S APCH, WE WERE STILL NOT IN POS FOR STRAIGHT IN. BUT THE DUST WAS MOVING OUT, AND THE SUN SETTING SO VISIBILITY IMPROVED GREATLY. WE COULD NOW DO A VISUAL WITH LEFT DOWNWIND/BASE FOR RWY 26L. WE LANDED WITH 50 MIN FUEL REMAINING. THE CAPT'S DECISION TO ATTEMPT A THIRD APCH, AND FAILING TO CONSIDER THE DELAY BEING VECTORED BEHIND AT LOW ALT, AND ADDED FUEL BURN, CONSUMED THE MAJORITY OF OUR CRUISE FUEL TO ALTERNATE. ALTHOUGH WE LANDED WITH LEGAL IFR RESERVE, WE SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO THE ALTERNATE AFTER OUR SECOND APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.