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Attributes | |
ACN | 528094 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 91 flight time total : 5028 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 528094 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was holding short of taxiway F on taxiway a after coming out of cargo complex, as advised by lax ground control. He told us to monitor tower frequency. We waited for a few mins monitoring, and then told tower that we were ready for departure. Tower gave us a clearance to turn left on taxiway F and hold short runway 25R. We immediately realized that he had made a mistake and before we could ask him any further, he gave us another clearance to turn right on taxiway F and hold short runway 25R. My first officer acknowledged, but mistakenly said hold short runway 25L. Taxiway F is a short taxiway and by the time we were moving to cross runway 25L, I was supported by my flight engineer as well that he heard the clearance to hold short runway 25R and not runway 25L. I told my first officer to confirm the clearance as we were crossing runway 25L. Tower was busy talking to another aircraft which was on final of runway 25L and he cleared him to land. At about the middle of runway 25L, tower said 'aircraft X, stop,' and by that time I opened power to cross runway 25L faster. Being in the middle of the runway, I crossed and held short of runway 25R. Shortly thereafter, tower gave us a clearance to cross runway 25R and turn right on taxiway B, to use full length of runway 25R for takeoff. Aircraft Y flight was told to go around by the tower. Before giving us the takeoff clearance, tower gave us a telephone number to call, which I did and was told that they will be investigating this matter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC READ BACK INCORRECT HOLD SHORT POINT AT LAX AND LAX LCL CTLR CATCHES THE ERROR WHEN THE ACFT IS MID RWY.
Narrative: I WAS HOLDING SHORT OF TXWY F ON TXWY A AFTER COMING OUT OF CARGO COMPLEX, AS ADVISED BY LAX GND CTL. HE TOLD US TO MONITOR TWR FREQ. WE WAITED FOR A FEW MINS MONITORING, AND THEN TOLD TWR THAT WE WERE READY FOR DEP. TWR GAVE US A CLRNC TO TURN L ON TXWY F AND HOLD SHORT RWY 25R. WE IMMEDIATELY REALIZED THAT HE HAD MADE A MISTAKE AND BEFORE WE COULD ASK HIM ANY FURTHER, HE GAVE US ANOTHER CLRNC TO TURN R ON TXWY F AND HOLD SHORT RWY 25R. MY FO ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT MISTAKENLY SAID HOLD SHORT RWY 25L. TXWY F IS A SHORT TXWY AND BY THE TIME WE WERE MOVING TO CROSS RWY 25L, I WAS SUPPORTED BY MY FE AS WELL THAT HE HEARD THE CLRNC TO HOLD SHORT RWY 25R AND NOT RWY 25L. I TOLD MY FO TO CONFIRM THE CLRNC AS WE WERE XING RWY 25L. TWR WAS BUSY TALKING TO ANOTHER ACFT WHICH WAS ON FINAL OF RWY 25L AND HE CLRED HIM TO LAND. AT ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF RWY 25L, TWR SAID 'ACFT X, STOP,' AND BY THAT TIME I OPENED PWR TO CROSS RWY 25L FASTER. BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RWY, I CROSSED AND HELD SHORT OF RWY 25R. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, TWR GAVE US A CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 25R AND TURN R ON TXWY B, TO USE FULL LENGTH OF RWY 25R FOR TKOF. ACFT Y FLT WAS TOLD TO GO AROUND BY THE TWR. BEFORE GIVING US THE TKOF CLRNC, TWR GAVE US A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO CALL, WHICH I DID AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY WILL BE INVESTIGATING THIS MATTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.