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Attributes | |
ACN | 528407 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Windshear Turbulence Thunderstorm |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 135 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 7900 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 528407 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | other Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
After going around from runway 24L (windshear), we were being vectored around WX for an eventual approach after the WX passed. At 4000 ft MSL, in the clouds and turbulence, a commuter aircraft at 6000 ft encountered a severe downdraft. He reported seeing 3000 FPM descent rate on the vsi. TCASII issued a TA and we responded accordingly. Our traffic blip showed directly overhead at our altitude. Conditions were IMC, no visible contact was made. No reported injuries were made from the evasive maneuver. Supplemental information from acn 529125: flight XXX to cle, emb 135, approached cle airport as fast moving cold front was approaching the area, gusty winds at 40 to 60 KTS at cle airport. Other flight, an MD80 missed due to windshear. Crew of emb 135 requested a holding pattern. Both aircraft were vectored northeast. MD80 was at 3000 ft, we were at 4000 ft and requested 8000 ft. Flight was vectored 010 degrees, then in that heading a cumulus cloud was encountered, severe downdrafts were experienced and 1000 ft was lost. MD80 aircraft was in the vicinity and an RA advisory came on TCASII, evasive action was applied, then updraft was experienced and aircraft climbed to 6500 ft. Severe thunderstorms approaching the area. Controllers should advise well before approaching the area, not enough altitude nor dist between aircraft was provided, and coordination with airlines about potentially approaching thunderstorms, and better guidance to avoid thunderstorms.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 AND AN EMB 135 HAVE AN NMAC DURING VECTORING IN PROX OF TSTM ACTIVITY NEAR CLE, OH.
Narrative: AFTER GOING AROUND FROM RWY 24L (WINDSHEAR), WE WERE BEING VECTORED AROUND WX FOR AN EVENTUAL APCH AFTER THE WX PASSED. AT 4000 FT MSL, IN THE CLOUDS AND TURB, A COMMUTER ACFT AT 6000 FT ENCOUNTERED A SEVERE DOWNDRAFT. HE RPTED SEEING 3000 FPM DSCNT RATE ON THE VSI. TCASII ISSUED A TA AND WE RESPONDED ACCORDINGLY. OUR TFC BLIP SHOWED DIRECTLY OVERHEAD AT OUR ALT. CONDITIONS WERE IMC, NO VISIBLE CONTACT WAS MADE. NO RPTED INJURIES WERE MADE FROM THE EVASIVE MANEUVER. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 529125: FLT XXX TO CLE, EMB 135, APCHED CLE ARPT AS FAST MOVING COLD FRONT WAS APCHING THE AREA, GUSTY WINDS AT 40 TO 60 KTS AT CLE ARPT. OTHER FLT, AN MD80 MISSED DUE TO WINDSHEAR. CREW OF EMB 135 REQUESTED A HOLDING PATTERN. BOTH ACFT WERE VECTORED NE. MD80 WAS AT 3000 FT, WE WERE AT 4000 FT AND REQUESTED 8000 FT. FLT WAS VECTORED 010 DEGS, THEN IN THAT HEADING A CUMULUS CLOUD WAS ENCOUNTERED, SEVERE DOWNDRAFTS WERE EXPERIENCED AND 1000 FT WAS LOST. MD80 ACFT WAS IN THE VICINITY AND AN RA ADVISORY CAME ON TCASII, EVASIVE ACTION WAS APPLIED, THEN UPDRAFT WAS EXPERIENCED AND ACFT CLIMBED TO 6500 FT. SEVERE TSTMS APCHING THE AREA. CTLRS SHOULD ADVISE WELL BEFORE APCHING THE AREA, NOT ENOUGH ALT NOR DIST BETWEEN ACFT WAS PROVIDED, AND COORD WITH AIRLINES ABOUT POTENTIALLY APCHING TSTMS, AND BETTER GUIDANCE TO AVOID TSTMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.