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A B737-500 PIC has second thoughts about his exceeding 250 KTS below 10000 ft after ATC lifts speed restr for the medical emergency just declared 30 NM northeast of dfw, tx.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 529530 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200110 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : dfw.vor |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc tracon : d10.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-500 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 529530 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | cabin event : passenger illness non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Passenger Human Performance ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Passenger Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
About 20-25 mins out of dfw, we advised ZFW we had a medical emergency (passenger having seizure and in and out of consciousness) and wanted to be considered a lifeguard flight and increase our speed. ATC cleared us direct dfw. Approaching 10000 ft on the descent, ATC said we could disregard the 250 KT restr and go as fast as we wanted. I got to thinking later that restr is not really ATC's to waive. We had declared a medical emergency, which probably covers us, but I need to be careful about accepting ATC's offers to waive regulations. Passenger removed by paramedics in semi conscious state, and taken to hospital.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-500 PIC HAS SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT HIS EXCEEDING 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT AFTER ATC LIFTS SPD RESTR FOR THE MEDICAL EMER JUST DECLARED 30 NM NE OF DFW, TX.
Narrative: ABOUT 20-25 MINS OUT OF DFW, WE ADVISED ZFW WE HAD A MEDICAL EMER (PAX HAVING SEIZURE AND IN AND OUT OF CONSCIOUSNESS) AND WANTED TO BE CONSIDERED A LIFEGUARD FLT AND INCREASE OUR SPD. ATC CLRED US DIRECT DFW. APCHING 10000 FT ON THE DSCNT, ATC SAID WE COULD DISREGARD THE 250 KT RESTR AND GO AS FAST AS WE WANTED. I GOT TO THINKING LATER THAT RESTR IS NOT REALLY ATC'S TO WAIVE. WE HAD DECLARED A MEDICAL EMER, WHICH PROBABLY COVERS US, BUT I NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ACCEPTING ATC'S OFFERS TO WAIVE REGS. PAX REMOVED BY PARAMEDICS IN SEMI CONSCIOUS STATE, AND TAKEN TO HOSPITAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.