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Attributes | |
ACN | 529705 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 |
ASRS Report | 529705 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Captain was PF, I was PNF. Grossly unstable approach and landing, runway 12, flaps 3 degrees. Target/approach speed 133 KTS, touched down at 160-165 KTS at very end of touchdown zone. Hot brakes, maximum temperature I remember was 545 degrees C. Kept 250 KTS till past OM. Through our approach I kept telling captain he was fast, 'you need to put gear down' twice, kept my hand on gear handle to emphasize. Terrain warning and sink rate went off several times. Flaps 2 degrees and 3 degrees were over sped...at about 500 ft AGL I told captain to 'go around.' he said 'I got it' or something like that. I came so very close to taking control of the aircraft. I have more data if needed. I told captain what I thought of the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN UNSTABILIZED APCH COUPLED WITH AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE LACK OF CRM SKILLS.
Narrative: CAPT WAS PF, I WAS PNF. GROSSLY UNSTABLE APCH AND LNDG, RWY 12, FLAPS 3 DEGS. TARGET/APCH SPD 133 KTS, TOUCHED DOWN AT 160-165 KTS AT VERY END OF TOUCHDOWN ZONE. HOT BRAKES, MAX TEMP I REMEMBER WAS 545 DEGS C. KEPT 250 KTS TILL PAST OM. THROUGH OUR APCH I KEPT TELLING CAPT HE WAS FAST, 'YOU NEED TO PUT GEAR DOWN' TWICE, KEPT MY HAND ON GEAR HANDLE TO EMPHASIZE. TERRAIN WARNING AND SINK RATE WENT OFF SEVERAL TIMES. FLAPS 2 DEGS AND 3 DEGS WERE OVER SPED...AT ABOUT 500 FT AGL I TOLD CAPT TO 'GO AROUND.' HE SAID 'I GOT IT' OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I CAME SO VERY CLOSE TO TAKING CTL OF THE ACFT. I HAVE MORE DATA IF NEEDED. I TOLD CAPT WHAT I THOUGHT OF THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.