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Attributes | |
ACN | 530418 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mkc.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : den.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 630 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 530418 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
During the final stages of check-out in the PA18-135 I own, we were working on crosswind lndgs due to the fact that we had been assigned runway 3. The wind was approximately 10-15 KTS direct across the runway. I did not question the tower on this assignment, since it enabled us to get in some practice. On our third landing, (a wheel landing) the aircraft was caught by a gust and started to veer to the left of the runway. I was in the back and I applied right rudder and some brake to overcome the drift at the same time the pilot in the front seat did likewise. This caused the tail to swing downwind, and the airplane rose up on its nose where it stopped. The speed at the time of the event was only about 5 mph as we had slowed almost to a stop when the wind picked us up. My immediate reaction to pull back the stick, only exacerbated the problem since there was now a tailwind and assisted in the nose over. The propeller struck the runway, and we both climbed out with the plane on the nose. Since the speed was so slow and we were wearing belts and harnesses, there were no injuries. Things that would have helped: 1) ask for runway 1, as it was open and the crosswind was not direct. 2) call out to the pilot in front that I was also applying brakes. 3) apply power during veer to straighten plane and go around. 4) use proper crosswind/tailwind movement of elevator to keep tail down in tailwind situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA18 PLT BEING CHKED OUT IN HIS NEW ACFT LOST CTL DURING A XWIND LNDG.
Narrative: DURING THE FINAL STAGES OF CHK-OUT IN THE PA18-135 I OWN, WE WERE WORKING ON XWIND LNDGS DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED RWY 3. THE WIND WAS APPROX 10-15 KTS DIRECT ACROSS THE RWY. I DID NOT QUESTION THE TWR ON THIS ASSIGNMENT, SINCE IT ENABLED US TO GET IN SOME PRACTICE. ON OUR THIRD LNDG, (A WHEEL LNDG) THE ACFT WAS CAUGHT BY A GUST AND STARTED TO VEER TO THE L OF THE RWY. I WAS IN THE BACK AND I APPLIED R RUDDER AND SOME BRAKE TO OVERCOME THE DRIFT AT THE SAME TIME THE PLT IN THE FRONT SEAT DID LIKEWISE. THIS CAUSED THE TAIL TO SWING DOWNWIND, AND THE AIRPLANE ROSE UP ON ITS NOSE WHERE IT STOPPED. THE SPD AT THE TIME OF THE EVENT WAS ONLY ABOUT 5 MPH AS WE HAD SLOWED ALMOST TO A STOP WHEN THE WIND PICKED US UP. MY IMMEDIATE REACTION TO PULL BACK THE STICK, ONLY EXACERBATED THE PROB SINCE THERE WAS NOW A TAILWIND AND ASSISTED IN THE NOSE OVER. THE PROP STRUCK THE RWY, AND WE BOTH CLBED OUT WITH THE PLANE ON THE NOSE. SINCE THE SPD WAS SO SLOW AND WE WERE WEARING BELTS AND HARNESSES, THERE WERE NO INJURIES. THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED: 1) ASK FOR RWY 1, AS IT WAS OPEN AND THE XWIND WAS NOT DIRECT. 2) CALL OUT TO THE PLT IN FRONT THAT I WAS ALSO APPLYING BRAKES. 3) APPLY PWR DURING VEER TO STRAIGHTEN PLANE AND GO AROUND. 4) USE PROPER XWIND/TAILWIND MOVEMENT OF ELEVATOR TO KEEP TAIL DOWN IN TAILWIND SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.