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Attributes | |
ACN | 530571 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | special use airspace : zzz.prohibited |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Snow Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 1160 |
ASRS Report | 530571 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Prior to a flight from ZZZ to ZZZ1. I requested WX briefing from ZZZ2 FSS via telephone. My route would take me close to ZZZ4 prohibited and ZZZ5 restr airspace. I asked the briefer if ZZZ4 prohibited airspace had been changed, knowing that the local area had some changes. The FSS briefer said no it's still eight miles. (The FSS supervisor has been asked by me to review the briefing tapes.) the prohibited and restr airspace are about eight miles in diameter so I was satisfied that there had been no change to the charted size. Upon completion of my flight to ZZZ1, tower advised me to call ATC who in turn advised me to call secret service. They said I had violated ZZZ4 prohibited airspace by nearly a mile. I was told we would need a face to face meeting upon my return home. Prior to a return flight next day I was briefed by ZZZ3 FSS. The briefer gave me the change to ZZZ4 prohibited airspace as 8 NM radius and 18000 ft. Had my request to the ZZZ2 FSS been worded differently and asked if ZZZ4 prohibited airspace was different from the sectional depiction I'm sure that a proper response would correct my misinformation asked good and more direct questions to the briefer would get much better and more accurate answers and correct the misunderstanding that existed by me and the briefer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT INADVERTENTLY FLEW THROUGH THE OUTER PERIMETER OF A PROHIBITED AIRSPACE DUE TO HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE FSS BRIEFER'S ANSWER TO QUESTIONING ANY RECENT CHANGES TO THE PROHIBITED AIRSPACE.
Narrative: PRIOR TO A FLT FROM ZZZ TO ZZZ1. I REQUESTED WX BRIEFING FROM ZZZ2 FSS VIA TELEPHONE. MY RTE WOULD TAKE ME CLOSE TO ZZZ4 PROHIBITED AND ZZZ5 RESTR AIRSPACE. I ASKED THE BRIEFER IF ZZZ4 PROHIBITED AIRSPACE HAD BEEN CHANGED, KNOWING THAT THE LOCAL AREA HAD SOME CHANGES. THE FSS BRIEFER SAID NO IT'S STILL EIGHT MILES. (THE FSS SUPVR HAS BEEN ASKED BY ME TO REVIEW THE BRIEFING TAPES.) THE PROHIBITED AND RESTR AIRSPACE ARE ABOUT EIGHT MILES IN DIAMETER SO I WAS SATISFIED THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO CHANGE TO THE CHARTED SIZE. UPON COMPLETION OF MY FLT TO ZZZ1, TWR ADVISED ME TO CALL ATC WHO IN TURN ADVISED ME TO CALL SECRET SERVICE. THEY SAID I HAD VIOLATED ZZZ4 PROHIBITED AIRSPACE BY NEARLY A MILE. I WAS TOLD WE WOULD NEED A FACE TO FACE MEETING UPON MY RETURN HOME. PRIOR TO A RETURN FLT NEXT DAY I WAS BRIEFED BY ZZZ3 FSS. THE BRIEFER GAVE ME THE CHANGE TO ZZZ4 PROHIBITED AIRSPACE AS 8 NM RADIUS AND 18000 FT. HAD MY REQUEST TO THE ZZZ2 FSS BEEN WORDED DIFFERENTLY AND ASKED IF ZZZ4 PROHIBITED AIRSPACE WAS DIFFERENT FROM THE SECTIONAL DEPICTION I'M SURE THAT A PROPER RESPONSE WOULD CORRECT MY MISINFORMATION ASKED GOOD AND MORE DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE BRIEFER WOULD GET MUCH BETTER AND MORE ACCURATE ANSWERS AND CORRECT THE MISUNDERSTANDING THAT EXISTED BY ME AND THE BRIEFER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.