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Attributes | |
ACN | 532134 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lrd.vortac |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 532134 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : fuel quantity ind other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : landed in emergency condition |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Before I left for lrd on saturday, I called dispatch to confirm the current taf was calling for VFR in lrd. With the changes in our computer system lately, some of the WX had been double printing on the paperwork. Myself and the dispatcher agreed that everything looked good based on the taf. No alternate was required. About 55 mi out of laredo, a DC8 on approach declared an emergency for loss of all hydraulics. The WX reported on ATIS was 1500 ft overcast. The ceiling was actually around 400-500 ft and the forecast was for VFR with a 3000 ft ceiling at the time of arrival. With that as a forecast there was no reason for an alternate, so we left the gate with around 2700 pounds of fuel. Since the aircraft ahead had an emergency, unaware of the cigs, they attempted the approach and ZHU advised us to slow due to the nature of the problem. We actually received holding instructions, too. The DC8 started the approach, and ended up going missed. They didn't get in until their third attempt. We had heard something about flaps not coming down so I assumed he was not stabilized and wanted to have better control of the aircraft before putting it on the runway. The DC8 with their problem occupied the approach anywhere from 15-25 mins. Once they were on the ground, we were vectored for the approach after an entry into the hold. When we started the approach, and made our way through 1200 ft MSL, I realized the WX wasn't what it was forecasted or reported. I had the runway in sight on our first attempt. I called it at 1 O'clock position for runway 32, straight in. The first officer looked at runway 35R and started a left turn assuming the correct runway was off the left side. I immediately corrected the first officer and said to go right. By the time the first officer corrected back to the right and started to descend onto the runway, I said 'we won't make it and we need to go around.' I called go around a second time and nothing happened. I took the airplane and initiated a go around myself. We got vectored to a downwind and I noted my fuel situation. I knew it was going to get tight for another approach to minimums with not enough fuel to go anywhere else. My fuel on the downwind leg was 900 pounds which is approximately 55 mins. I declared minimum fuel with houston and laredo decided to declare an emergency, I agreed. I made it in on the second attempt and landed with 710 pounds of fuel. That amount of fuel was roughly 45 mins. The reason I declared minimum fuel was for other aircraft on the approach. I didn't have time to get vectored 20 mi out to get in line. I wanted to be #1 for the approach. Another air carrier was vectored off to allow us to go first. I shot the approach and landed on runway 32.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB120 CAPT DECLARES MINIMUM FUEL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AN EMER DUE TO INSUFFICIENT FUEL FOR ANY FURTHER HOLDING OR DELAY.
Narrative: BEFORE I LEFT FOR LRD ON SATURDAY, I CALLED DISPATCH TO CONFIRM THE CURRENT TAF WAS CALLING FOR VFR IN LRD. WITH THE CHANGES IN OUR COMPUTER SYS LATELY, SOME OF THE WX HAD BEEN DOUBLE PRINTING ON THE PAPERWORK. MYSELF AND THE DISPATCHER AGREED THAT EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD BASED ON THE TAF. NO ALTERNATE WAS REQUIRED. ABOUT 55 MI OUT OF LAREDO, A DC8 ON APCH DECLARED AN EMER FOR LOSS OF ALL HYDS. THE WX RPTED ON ATIS WAS 1500 FT OVCST. THE CEILING WAS ACTUALLY AROUND 400-500 FT AND THE FORECAST WAS FOR VFR WITH A 3000 FT CEILING AT THE TIME OF ARR. WITH THAT AS A FORECAST THERE WAS NO REASON FOR AN ALTERNATE, SO WE LEFT THE GATE WITH AROUND 2700 LBS OF FUEL. SINCE THE ACFT AHEAD HAD AN EMER, UNAWARE OF THE CIGS, THEY ATTEMPTED THE APCH AND ZHU ADVISED US TO SLOW DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROB. WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS, TOO. THE DC8 STARTED THE APCH, AND ENDED UP GOING MISSED. THEY DIDN'T GET IN UNTIL THEIR THIRD ATTEMPT. WE HAD HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT FLAPS NOT COMING DOWN SO I ASSUMED HE WAS NOT STABILIZED AND WANTED TO HAVE BETTER CTL OF THE ACFT BEFORE PUTTING IT ON THE RWY. THE DC8 WITH THEIR PROB OCCUPIED THE APCH ANYWHERE FROM 15-25 MINS. ONCE THEY WERE ON THE GND, WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE APCH AFTER AN ENTRY INTO THE HOLD. WHEN WE STARTED THE APCH, AND MADE OUR WAY THROUGH 1200 FT MSL, I REALIZED THE WX WASN'T WHAT IT WAS FORECASTED OR RPTED. I HAD THE RWY IN SIGHT ON OUR FIRST ATTEMPT. I CALLED IT AT 1 O'CLOCK POS FOR RWY 32, STRAIGHT IN. THE FO LOOKED AT RWY 35R AND STARTED A L TURN ASSUMING THE CORRECT RWY WAS OFF THE L SIDE. I IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED THE FO AND SAID TO GO R. BY THE TIME THE FO CORRECTED BACK TO THE R AND STARTED TO DSND ONTO THE RWY, I SAID 'WE WON'T MAKE IT AND WE NEED TO GO AROUND.' I CALLED GAR A SECOND TIME AND NOTHING HAPPENED. I TOOK THE AIRPLANE AND INITIATED A GAR MYSELF. WE GOT VECTORED TO A DOWNWIND AND I NOTED MY FUEL SIT. I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO GET TIGHT FOR ANOTHER APCH TO MINIMUMS WITH NOT ENOUGH FUEL TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE. MY FUEL ON THE DOWNWIND LEG WAS 900 LBS WHICH IS APPROX 55 MINS. I DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL WITH HOUSTON AND LAREDO DECIDED TO DECLARE AN EMER, I AGREED. I MADE IT IN ON THE SECOND ATTEMPT AND LANDED WITH 710 LBS OF FUEL. THAT AMOUNT OF FUEL WAS ROUGHLY 45 MINS. THE REASON I DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL WAS FOR OTHER ACFT ON THE APCH. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GET VECTORED 20 MI OUT TO GET IN LINE. I WANTED TO BE #1 FOR THE APCH. ANOTHER ACR WAS VECTORED OFF TO ALLOW US TO GO FIRST. I SHOT THE APCH AND LANDED ON RWY 32.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.