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Attributes | |
ACN | 532384 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon tower : crp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15300 flight time type : 9600 |
ASRS Report | 532384 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
While being vectored around phx to the north side. TRACON advised us of traffic 12 O'clock position and 7500 ft. TCASII TA'ed the traffic at 2 mi, showing 500 ft below us. Traffic then began climbing. The first officer disconnected the autoplt and initiated a climb. We crossed over the cessna nose-to-nose and down the left side approximately 100 ft horizontal and 600 ft vertical (TCASII) as we climbed through 8300 ft. 500 ft planned separation between a fast mover such as an airliner and a light aircraft doesn't seem like a great idea.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW AND A C182 HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION IN PHX CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED AROUND PHX TO THE N SIDE. TRACON ADVISED US OF TFC 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 7500 FT. TCASII TA'ED THE TFC AT 2 MI, SHOWING 500 FT BELOW US. TFC THEN BEGAN CLBING. THE FO DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND INITIATED A CLB. WE CROSSED OVER THE CESSNA NOSE-TO-NOSE AND DOWN THE L SIDE APPROX 100 FT HORIZ AND 600 FT VERT (TCASII) AS WE CLBED THROUGH 8300 FT. 500 FT PLANNED SEPARATION BTWN A FAST MOVER SUCH AS AN AIRLINER AND A LIGHT ACFT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GREAT IDEA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.