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Attributes | |
ACN | 533164 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : luk.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 920 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 533164 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude none taken : detected after the fact other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I received our departure clearance. It was a standard clearance, 'as filed maintain 2500 ft, 280 degrees/10 mins, etc. It didn't contain any reference to a SID. I asked clearance about any expected vectors I might expect. They said departure will have them. I reviewed both sids that could have applied to us and the clearance received was basically what was on them, which was fly runway heading to 2500 ft thence. I didn't relay this to the captain as I didn't think I needed to. He didn't ask for any input. He looked at the obstacle departure procedure on the airport diagram and stated we climb to 2500 ft and turn left to 090 degrees. I hadn't reviewed it so I didn't question him, even though this didn't sound right to me. As we taxied out for takeoff, I missed our takeoff clearance because I was concentrating on taxiing on unlighted txwys. I asked him what the clearance was and he stated 2500 ft left 090 degrees . This didn't sound right to me so I asked him to confirm this with the tower. He didn't. We were cleared for takeoff so I did. The tower handed us over to departure. I don't recall hearing the altitude alerter or the captain calling out 1000 ft to go. He said left 090 degrees. I asked him again to confirm this with ATC. He said turn left 090 degrees. I started the left turn to 090 degrees. At this point we noted excessive altitude above our assigned altitude. I had started the turn so I reduced power and descended to our assigned altitude. No abrupt maneuvers were performed or aircraft limits exceeded. The captain reported to departure we were in a left turn to 090 degrees and leveling 2500 ft. ATC confirmed issued a clearance to 4000 ft and 360 degree heading. Contributing factors: I have flown with this captain before and have had various problems with the way he performs. I don't have confidence in his abilities and so I questioned him and lost my concentration. I have reviewed all the charts and diagrams pertaining to this incident and I still don't know where he got (turn left to 090 degrees). I don't recall any ATC directions to this heading. I think he misread departure procedure for another runway that stated runway heading to 900 ft then left turn to 2500 ft. Corrective action: 1) it will have to come from me because he doesn't think he contributed to this incident. 2) I will brief him both visually, textually on every aspect of our flight before we start engines.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C650 CREW HAD ALT AND TRACK DEV DEPARTING CVG CLASS B.
Narrative: I RECEIVED OUR DEP CLRNC. IT WAS A STANDARD CLRNC, 'AS FILED MAINTAIN 2500 FT, 280 DEGS/10 MINS, ETC. IT DIDN'T CONTAIN ANY REF TO A SID. I ASKED CLRNC ABOUT ANY EXPECTED VECTORS I MIGHT EXPECT. THEY SAID DEP WILL HAVE THEM. I REVIEWED BOTH SIDS THAT COULD HAVE APPLIED TO US AND THE CLRNC RECEIVED WAS BASICALLY WHAT WAS ON THEM, WHICH WAS FLY RWY HEADING TO 2500 FT THENCE. I DIDN'T RELAY THIS TO THE CAPT AS I DIDN'T THINK I NEEDED TO. HE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY INPUT. HE LOOKED AT THE OBSTACLE DEP PROC ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM AND STATED WE CLB TO 2500 FT AND TURN L TO 090 DEGS. I HADN'T REVIEWED IT SO I DIDN'T QUESTION HIM, EVEN THOUGH THIS DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME. AS WE TAXIED OUT FOR TKOF, I MISSED OUR TKOF CLRNC BECAUSE I WAS CONCENTRATING ON TAXIING ON UNLIGHTED TXWYS. I ASKED HIM WHAT THE CLRNC WAS AND HE STATED 2500 FT L 090 DEGS . THIS DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME SO I ASKED HIM TO CONFIRM THIS WITH THE TWR. HE DIDN'T. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF SO I DID. THE TWR HANDED US OVER TO DEP. I DON'T RECALL HEARING THE ALT ALERTER OR THE CAPT CALLING OUT 1000 FT TO GO. HE SAID L 090 DEGS. I ASKED HIM AGAIN TO CONFIRM THIS WITH ATC. HE SAID TURN L 090 DEGS. I STARTED THE L TURN TO 090 DEGS. AT THIS POINT WE NOTED EXCESSIVE ALT ABOVE OUR ASSIGNED ALT. I HAD STARTED THE TURN SO I REDUCED PWR AND DSNDED TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT. NO ABRUPT MANEUVERS WERE PERFORMED OR ACFT LIMITS EXCEEDED. THE CAPT RPTED TO DEP WE WERE IN A L TURN TO 090 DEGS AND LEVELING 2500 FT. ATC CONFIRMED ISSUED A CLRNC TO 4000 FT AND 360 DEG HDG. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: I HAVE FLOWN WITH THIS CAPT BEFORE AND HAVE HAD VARIOUS PROBS WITH THE WAY HE PERFORMS. I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN HIS ABILITIES AND SO I QUESTIONED HIM AND LOST MY CONCENTRATION. I HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE CHARTS AND DIAGRAMS PERTAINING TO THIS INCIDENT AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT (TURN L TO 090 DEGS). I DON'T RECALL ANY ATC DIRECTIONS TO THIS HEADING. I THINK HE MISREAD DEP PROC FOR ANOTHER RWY THAT STATED RWY HEADING TO 900 FT THEN L TURN TO 2500 FT. CORRECTIVE ACTION: 1) IT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T THINK HE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS INCIDENT. 2) I WILL BRIEF HIM BOTH VISUALLY, TEXTUALLY ON EVERY ASPECT OF OUR FLT BEFORE WE START ENGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.