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Attributes | |
ACN | 533955 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mzb.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3600 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 27 other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 533955 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had been given vectors for the localizer DME runway 27. Approach told us to descend from 5000 ft to 4000 ft and gave us a 240 degree heading to intercept the localizer DME runway 27. I was the PNF so I set and armed 4000 ft in our FMS and selected 240 degrees on our heading. The autoplt was on at the time and the localizer was armed for capture. The captain began the descent and we intercepted the localizer. I then looked down on the center pedestal to doublechk, we had the right course and frequency in the ILS panel. While I was looking down, approach said to stop our descent. I then looked up and saw the captain had already stopped our descent at 3600 ft. I replied 'roger.' then approach informed us they showed us outside of vydda and asked if we had the airport in sight. We replied 'yes.' they then cleared us for the visual approach. We were in the clear and saw no terrain issues and we landed uneventfully. Possible contributing factors: the whole flight crew was new in their seats. The captain had less than 100 hours in his seat. First officer had just 100 hours in seat. Flight engineer approximately 300+ hours in his seat. Also, it was the first time the captain and myself had been to san diego. The autoplt failed to capture the selected altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10-30 CREW HAD ALT OVERSHOOT FLYING THE LOC DME RWY 27 APCH AT SAN.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN GIVEN VECTORS FOR THE LOC DME RWY 27. APCH TOLD US TO DSND FROM 5000 FT TO 4000 FT AND GAVE US A 240 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LOC DME RWY 27. I WAS THE PNF SO I SET AND ARMED 4000 FT IN OUR FMS AND SELECTED 240 DEGS ON OUR HDG. THE AUTOPLT WAS ON AT THE TIME AND THE LOC WAS ARMED FOR CAPTURE. THE CAPT BEGAN THE DSCNT AND WE INTERCEPTED THE LOC. I THEN LOOKED DOWN ON THE CTR PEDESTAL TO DOUBLECHK, WE HAD THE RIGHT COURSE AND FREQ IN THE ILS PANEL. WHILE I WAS LOOKING DOWN, APCH SAID TO STOP OUR DSCNT. I THEN LOOKED UP AND SAW THE CAPT HAD ALREADY STOPPED OUR DSCNT AT 3600 FT. I REPLIED 'ROGER.' THEN APCH INFORMED US THEY SHOWED US OUTSIDE OF VYDDA AND ASKED IF WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT. WE REPLIED 'YES.' THEY THEN CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH. WE WERE IN THE CLR AND SAW NO TERRAIN ISSUES AND WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: THE WHOLE FLC WAS NEW IN THEIR SEATS. THE CAPT HAD LESS THAN 100 HRS IN HIS SEAT. FO HAD JUST 100 HRS IN SEAT. FE APPROX 300+ HRS IN HIS SEAT. ALSO, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE CAPT AND MYSELF HAD BEEN TO SAN DIEGO. THE AUTOPLT FAILED TO CAPTURE THE SELECTED ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.