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Attributes | |
ACN | 534106 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 182 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 534106 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : pax 4 |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The crew arrived at aircraft at XA00 for the initial launch of flight from stl to bwi. External ground power and heat were connected and operating. WX conditions consisted of clear skies, no visible moisture in the air or on the ground, and a temperature of -9 degrees C. The aircraft appeared to be clear of contamination on its outer surfaces and preflight was accomplished, etc. Push from gate was on time. As we began taxi, the flight attendant indicated a customer in the cabin (which was a pilot) was concerned with some contamination on the wing. We stopped on the ramp and the first officer went to the cabin and determined that there did appear to be a patchy area of thin hoar frost in the flap area. Apparently, the ground heater had dissipated any contamination on the fuselage and no contamination was detected on preflight. However, once direction was changed during taxi, the sunlight highlighted some contamination. We requested deicing which was performed and then conducted a visual inspection of the aircraft to ensure no contamination and the customer's satisfaction. We were cognizant of surface contamination on originators in clear WX, having detected the need for additional deicing and requesting such on the previous morning of a different location. However, in this event the lack of readily evident contamination may have led to the belief that the aircraft had been previously deiced similar to other stations. Possibly an initialization block on existing gate agent paperwork would not increase workload, but ensure coordination that deicing procedures were considered/understood/completed for appropriate WX conditions. However, I understand that the PIC has ultimate responsibility for determining the aircraft is clean and safe for flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 ON TAXI OUT AT STL WERE INFORMED BY A PLT PAX THAT FROST SEEMED TO BE PRESENT ON THE WING.
Narrative: THE CREW ARRIVED AT ACFT AT XA00 FOR THE INITIAL LAUNCH OF FLT FROM STL TO BWI. EXTERNAL GND PWR AND HEAT WERE CONNECTED AND OPERATING. WX CONDITIONS CONSISTED OF CLR SKIES, NO VISIBLE MOISTURE IN THE AIR OR ON THE GND, AND A TEMP OF -9 DEGS C. THE ACFT APPEARED TO BE CLR OF CONTAMINATION ON ITS OUTER SURFACES AND PREFLT WAS ACCOMPLISHED, ETC. PUSH FROM GATE WAS ON TIME. AS WE BEGAN TAXI, THE FLT ATTENDANT INDICATED A CUSTOMER IN THE CABIN (WHICH WAS A PLT) WAS CONCERNED WITH SOME CONTAMINATION ON THE WING. WE STOPPED ON THE RAMP AND THE FO WENT TO THE CABIN AND DETERMINED THAT THERE DID APPEAR TO BE A PATCHY AREA OF THIN HOAR FROST IN THE FLAP AREA. APPARENTLY, THE GND HEATER HAD DISSIPATED ANY CONTAMINATION ON THE FUSELAGE AND NO CONTAMINATION WAS DETECTED ON PREFLT. HOWEVER, ONCE DIRECTION WAS CHANGED DURING TAXI, THE SUNLIGHT HIGHLIGHTED SOME CONTAMINATION. WE REQUESTED DEICING WHICH WAS PERFORMED AND THEN CONDUCTED A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE ACFT TO ENSURE NO CONTAMINATION AND THE CUSTOMER'S SATISFACTION. WE WERE COGNIZANT OF SURFACE CONTAMINATION ON ORIGINATORS IN CLR WX, HAVING DETECTED THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DEICING AND REQUESTING SUCH ON THE PREVIOUS MORNING OF A DIFFERENT LOCATION. HOWEVER, IN THIS EVENT THE LACK OF READILY EVIDENT CONTAMINATION MAY HAVE LED TO THE BELIEF THAT THE ACFT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEICED SIMILAR TO OTHER STATIONS. POSSIBLY AN INITIALIZATION BLOCK ON EXISTING GATE AGENT PAPERWORK WOULD NOT INCREASE WORKLOAD, BUT ENSURE COORD THAT DEICING PROCS WERE CONSIDERED/UNDERSTOOD/COMPLETED FOR APPROPRIATE WX CONDITIONS. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PIC HAS ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DETERMINING THE ACFT IS CLEAN AND SAFE FOR FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.