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Attributes | |
ACN | 534971 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pwk.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon tower : atl.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : pwk2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time total : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 534971 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 535432 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
To preface this situation, our clearance was obtained directly from chicago clearance at approximately XA20 CST. We were cleared to hpn via radar vectors to elx (keeler) then as filed. Due to the early hour, we did not question the omitence of the SID. By the time our passenger arrived the tower had opened, and we got our taxi clearance around XB08 CST, and proceeded to runway 16. Upon calling ready for takeoff, we were cleared into position, and subsequently cleared for takeoff. Included with the takeoff clearance, we were told to fly the palwaukee two SID to a 030 degree heading. The PF had takeoff power set and started the takeoff role as I was reading back our clearance. Immediately after takeoff I tuned the ord (chicago O'hare) VOR in the #2 navigation radio, noted the RMI, and instructed the PF to get started on the right turn. I say we were about 500-600 ft AGL. Noting the RMI again, I made mention to increase the bank rate. The limit on the SID is to complete the right turn to assigned heading east of the ord VOR 345 degree radial. I made 2 errors in setting the departure frequency, and was heads down for a few seconds. By the time I got the frequency right and made contact to chicago departure, we were still in the turn and were told by departure that we had exceeded the SID limits. I looked at the RMI and at the time saw that we were on the 345 def radial. I said to the PF, that this guy was picky, but made no mention to ATC of the exceedence. No further comment was made by ATC, and we received a frequency change within 5 mins of initial contact. Upon additional review, I made note that I may have been looking at the #1 RMI needle (tuned to obk VOR) throughout the turn instead of the #2 RMI. So in reflection I really have no idea how far we exceeded the 345 degree radial. If you look at the SID, a 30 degree bank is required with a 180 KT TAS. The PF had a manual speed set of 220 KTS. I do not believe the PF ever had a bank above 40 degrees. Complacency was the biggest factor that influenced this error. We were familiar with the SID and the airport, and took for granted the tight turn the SID required. Being the PIC, I should have stopped the takeoff roll and made certain we were setup and briefed on the SID prior to departing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GLF5 CREW, DEPARTING PWK, EXCEEDED THE SID'S TURN RADIUM RESTR.
Narrative: TO PREFACE THIS SIT, OUR CLRNC WAS OBTAINED DIRECTLY FROM CHICAGO CLRNC AT APPROX XA20 CST. WE WERE CLRED TO HPN VIA RADAR VECTORS TO ELX (KEELER) THEN AS FILED. DUE TO THE EARLY HR, WE DID NOT QUESTION THE OMITENCE OF THE SID. BY THE TIME OUR PAX ARRIVED THE TWR HAD OPENED, AND WE GOT OUR TAXI CLRNC AROUND XB08 CST, AND PROCEEDED TO RWY 16. UPON CALLING READY FOR TKOF, WE WERE CLRED INTO POS, AND SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED FOR TKOF. INCLUDED WITH THE TKOF CLRNC, WE WERE TOLD TO FLY THE PALWAUKEE TWO SID TO A 030 DEG HDG. THE PF HAD TKOF PWR SET AND STARTED THE TKOF ROLE AS I WAS READING BACK OUR CLRNC. IMMEDIATELY AFTER TKOF I TUNED THE ORD (CHICAGO O'HARE) VOR IN THE #2 NAV RADIO, NOTED THE RMI, AND INSTRUCTED THE PF TO GET STARTED ON THE R TURN. I SAY WE WERE ABOUT 500-600 FT AGL. NOTING THE RMI AGAIN, I MADE MENTION TO INCREASE THE BANK RATE. THE LIMIT ON THE SID IS TO COMPLETE THE R TURN TO ASSIGNED HEADING E OF THE ORD VOR 345 DEG RADIAL. I MADE 2 ERRORS IN SETTING THE DEP FREQ, AND WAS HEADS DOWN FOR A FEW SECONDS. BY THE TIME I GOT THE FREQ RIGHT AND MADE CONTACT TO CHICAGO DEP, WE WERE STILL IN THE TURN AND WERE TOLD BY DEP THAT WE HAD EXCEEDED THE SID LIMITS. I LOOKED AT THE RMI AND AT THE TIME SAW THAT WE WERE ON THE 345 DEF RADIAL. I SAID TO THE PF, THAT THIS GUY WAS PICKY, BUT MADE NO MENTION TO ATC OF THE EXCEEDENCE. NO FURTHER COMMENT WAS MADE BY ATC, AND WE RECEIVED A FREQ CHANGE WITHIN 5 MINS OF INITIAL CONTACT. UPON ADDITIONAL REVIEW, I MADE NOTE THAT I MAY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE #1 RMI NEEDLE (TUNED TO OBK VOR) THROUGHOUT THE TURN INSTEAD OF THE #2 RMI. SO IN REFLECTION I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR WE EXCEEDED THE 345 DEG RADIAL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SID, A 30 DEG BANK IS REQUIRED WITH A 180 KT TAS. THE PF HAD A MANUAL SPD SET OF 220 KTS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PF EVER HAD A BANK ABOVE 40 DEGS. COMPLACENCY WAS THE BIGGEST FACTOR THAT INFLUENCED THIS ERROR. WE WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE SID AND THE ARPT, AND TOOK FOR GRANTED THE TIGHT TURN THE SID REQUIRED. BEING THE PIC, I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THE TKOF ROLL AND MADE CERTAIN WE WERE SETUP AND BRIEFED ON THE SID PRIOR TO DEPARTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.