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C556 crew off teb on teb 5 departure receive controller's ire on reporting climbing to 2000 ft but pilots had set the altitude alerter to 1500 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 535556 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200201 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 535556 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon departing the teb airport runway 24 on jan/xa/02 at XA30Z, the crew of aircraft X incorrectly stated to the departure controller 'climbing to 2000 ft.' the altitude alerter was set at the required 1500 ft. Upon receiving this call-up, the controller's voice became enraged and threatened the crew with a violation if 1500 ft was exceeded. At no time did aircraft X climb above 1500 ft before completing the turn to heading 280 degrees. Due to the intimidating, threatening tone by ATC, the crew belatedly began the turn to heading 280 degrees at teb 30 DME and completed the turn at teb 280 degree radial 4.1 DME. The controller then admonished the crew by saying this was the worst execution of this procedure he had ever seen. The very next aircraft to depart teb runway 24, an executive jet, also reported climbing to 2000 ft and was reprimanded.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C556 CREW OFF TEB ON TEB 5 DEP RECEIVE CTLR'S IRE ON RPTING CLBING TO 2000 FT BUT PLTS HAD SET THE ALT ALERTER TO 1500 FT.
Narrative: UPON DEPARTING THE TEB ARPT RWY 24 ON JAN/XA/02 AT XA30Z, THE CREW OF ACFT X INCORRECTLY STATED TO THE DEP CTLR 'CLBING TO 2000 FT.' THE ALT ALERTER WAS SET AT THE REQUIRED 1500 FT. UPON RECEIVING THIS CALL-UP, THE CTLR'S VOICE BECAME ENRAGED AND THREATENED THE CREW WITH A VIOLATION IF 1500 FT WAS EXCEEDED. AT NO TIME DID ACFT X CLB ABOVE 1500 FT BEFORE COMPLETING THE TURN TO HDG 280 DEGS. DUE TO THE INTIMIDATING, THREATENING TONE BY ATC, THE CREW BELATEDLY BEGAN THE TURN TO HDG 280 DEGS AT TEB 30 DME AND COMPLETED THE TURN AT TEB 280 DEG RADIAL 4.1 DME. THE CTLR THEN ADMONISHED THE CREW BY SAYING THIS WAS THE WORST EXECUTION OF THIS PROC HE HAD EVER SEEN. THE VERY NEXT ACFT TO DEPART TEB RWY 24, AN EXECUTIVE JET, ALSO RPTED CLBING TO 2000 FT AND WAS REPRIMANDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.