<< >> NASA ASRS Report 535944, January 2002

CL65 flight crew taxied past the runway 28C hold short lines believing they were ILS approach lines. There apparently were no other observed hold short lines.

Attributes
ACN	535944
Time
Date	200201
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pit.airport
State Reference	PA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	535944
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 2200
ASRS Report	536064
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

During taxi at pit to runway 28C, we inadvertently crossed the runway hold short lines. We saw the hold short lines and mistook them for the approach area hold short lines. There also was a sign that said 'runway 28C approach' right next to the lines. After crossing the first hold short lines we realized that there weren't any other hold short lines. We were then cleared into position and hold on runway 28C. There was no conflict and we did not actually enter the runway without a clearance. We were still on the taxiway, but just past the lines.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CL65 FLC TAXIED PAST THE RWY 28C HOLD SHORT LINES BELIEVING THEY WERE ILS APCH LINES. THERE APPARENTLY WERE NO OTHER OBSERVED HOLD SHORT LINES.

Narrative: DURING TAXI AT PIT TO RWY 28C, WE INADVERTENTLY CROSSED THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINES. WE SAW THE HOLD SHORT LINES AND MISTOOK THEM FOR THE APCH AREA HOLD SHORT LINES. THERE ALSO WAS A SIGN THAT SAID 'RWY 28C APCH' RIGHT NEXT TO THE LINES. AFTER XING THE FIRST HOLD SHORT LINES WE REALIZED THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER HOLD SHORT LINES. WE WERE THEN CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 28C. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND WE DID NOT ACTUALLY ENTER THE RWY WITHOUT A CLRNC. WE WERE STILL ON THE TXWY, BUT JUST PAST THE LINES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.