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Attributes | |
ACN | 537036 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 53 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Upon arrival into den from the east we were vectored counterclockwise around the airport (from approximately 5 O'clock position to 12 O'clock position, with 12 O'clock as north) at 11000 ft and 220 KTS. We were held at that assigned speed/altitude until cleared by approach for visual approach to runway 17R. We had previously called the field in sight (approximately 30 seconds prior to approach clearance). As the PNF I was conducting checklists and rearranging our navigation setup as we were given a runway other than expected (which was runway 16). The captain (PF) attempted to make the turn to runway 17R and start the descent, but the tailwind at altitude with the already high and fast condition made it nearly impossible to line up on runway 17R. We ended up lined up on runway 16. The captain asked which runway we were going to. I confirmed 'the middle, runway 17R.' we made the correction, checked in with tower and landed. Later we contacted approach via phone line and discussed the problems encountered. Approach agreed that we were given 'more than we could chew' with the high, fast with a tailwind condition. Our mistakes were: 1) accepting the visual without the specific runway agreed upon by both of us, 2) allowing the high and fast condition to exist. We should have called for a speed and altitude reduction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CAPT LOST SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AFTER BEING CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH DUE TO BEING HELD HIGH, CLOSE IN AND FAST RESULTING IN LINING UP WITH THE WRONG RWY. THE FO QUICKLY DIRECTED THE CAPT TO THE CORRECT RWY WHERE A SUCCESSFUL LNDG WAS MADE.
Narrative: UPON ARR INTO DEN FROM THE E WE WERE VECTORED COUNTERCLOCKWISE AROUND THE ARPT (FROM APPROX 5 O'CLOCK POS TO 12 O'CLOCK POS, WITH 12 O'CLOCK AS N) AT 11000 FT AND 220 KTS. WE WERE HELD AT THAT ASSIGNED SPD/ALT UNTIL CLRED BY APCH FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 17R. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE FIELD IN SIGHT (APPROX 30 SECONDS PRIOR TO APCH CLRNC). AS THE PNF I WAS CONDUCTING CHKLISTS AND REARRANGING OUR NAV SETUP AS WE WERE GIVEN A RWY OTHER THAN EXPECTED (WHICH WAS RWY 16). THE CAPT (PF) ATTEMPTED TO MAKE THE TURN TO RWY 17R AND START THE DSCNT, BUT THE TAILWIND AT ALT WITH THE ALREADY HIGH AND FAST CONDITION MADE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LINE UP ON RWY 17R. WE ENDED UP LINED UP ON RWY 16. THE CAPT ASKED WHICH RWY WE WERE GOING TO. I CONFIRMED 'THE MIDDLE, RWY 17R.' WE MADE THE CORRECTION, CHKED IN WITH TWR AND LANDED. LATER WE CONTACTED APCH VIA PHONE LINE AND DISCUSSED THE PROBS ENCOUNTERED. APCH AGREED THAT WE WERE GIVEN 'MORE THAN WE COULD CHEW' WITH THE HIGH, FAST WITH A TAILWIND CONDITION. OUR MISTAKES WERE: 1) ACCEPTING THE VISUAL WITHOUT THE SPECIFIC RWY AGREED UPON BY BOTH OF US, 2) ALLOWING THE HIGH AND FAST CONDITION TO EXIST. WE SHOULD HAVE CALLED FOR A SPD AND ALT REDUCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.