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Attributes | |
ACN | 537365 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 10 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked ground : maintenance |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 537365 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : capt hsi indicator flag other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : repair performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements performance deficiency : fault isolation |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
Maintenance was in the cockpit with the captain and first officer when I returned from my walkaround. They came out of the cockpit with the MEL and the aircraft maintenance logbook. They said the captain had a heading flag and they were going to defer it. I finished with my work. Maintenance brought back the MEL and aircraft maintenance log at departure time and instead of looking at the MEL, I put it away. The captain told me that when we get airborne, I needed to call and get time and initials for the MEL to put on the release. We had not yet started the engines and I told him I hadn't looked at the write-up, and asked if the paperwork was ok. He said yes and pointed to the flag on the heading indicator. I questioned whether we could go with an inoperative directional gyro and both the captain and first officer explained that the directional gyro worked fine, what was written up was the flag. After we were airborne, I looked up the MEL and discovered it was not the correct MEL. You cannot MEL the directional gyro heading flag. They (maintenance) had written up the RMI heading flag. When I brought this to the captain's and first officer's attention, the captain said 'oh well, I guess we better not say anything. At least we got off on time.' the first officer said 'if there is not an MEL for the flag then it is captain's discretion.' the captain agreed. I told them I didn't think so.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC10-10 WAS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH THE HDG FLAG ON THE CAPT'S HSI INDICATOR DEFERRED IN CONFLICT WITH THE MEL.
Narrative: MAINT WAS IN THE COCKPIT WITH THE CAPT AND FO WHEN I RETURNED FROM MY WALKAROUND. THEY CAME OUT OF THE COCKPIT WITH THE MEL AND THE ACFT MAINT LOGBOOK. THEY SAID THE CAPT HAD A HDG FLAG AND THEY WERE GOING TO DEFER IT. I FINISHED WITH MY WORK. MAINT BROUGHT BACK THE MEL AND ACFT MAINT LOG AT DEP TIME AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE MEL, I PUT IT AWAY. THE CAPT TOLD ME THAT WHEN WE GET AIRBORNE, I NEEDED TO CALL AND GET TIME AND INITIALS FOR THE MEL TO PUT ON THE RELEASE. WE HAD NOT YET STARTED THE ENGS AND I TOLD HIM I HADN'T LOOKED AT THE WRITE-UP, AND ASKED IF THE PAPERWORK WAS OK. HE SAID YES AND POINTED TO THE FLAG ON THE HDG INDICATOR. I QUESTIONED WHETHER WE COULD GO WITH AN INOP DIRECTIONAL GYRO AND BOTH THE CAPT AND FO EXPLAINED THAT THE DIRECTIONAL GYRO WORKED FINE, WHAT WAS WRITTEN UP WAS THE FLAG. AFTER WE WERE AIRBORNE, I LOOKED UP THE MEL AND DISCOVERED IT WAS NOT THE CORRECT MEL. YOU CANNOT MEL THE DIRECTIONAL GYRO HDG FLAG. THEY (MAINT) HAD WRITTEN UP THE RMI HDG FLAG. WHEN I BROUGHT THIS TO THE CAPT'S AND FO'S ATTN, THE CAPT SAID 'OH WELL, I GUESS WE BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING. AT LEAST WE GOT OFF ON TIME.' THE FO SAID 'IF THERE IS NOT AN MEL FOR THE FLAG THEN IT IS CAPT'S DISCRETION.' THE CAPT AGREED. I TOLD THEM I DIDN'T THINK SO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.