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Attributes | |
ACN | 537445 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lsas.artcc |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | departure sid : lasun 3u |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 537445 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Airspace Structure Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First officer flew departure (not best decision on captain's part) and selected VNAV at about 100 ft (which gives climb power, which at maximum gross takeoff makes for a good attention getter flying towards the alps). At the same time he called for flaps 1 degree and began a shallow (less than 15 degree) turn, at which point I became more interested in the maneuver speed and the terrain to the south than being on the SID. When the speed finally got up to a safe point, we rolled the bank up to 30 degrees and resumed to fly the SID. The low altitude/airspeed in mountainous terrain was easily the distracter in this case. 2 lessons: brief every part of SID to the last KT of speed and foot of altitude and don't assume that because first officer is european qualified means he's been there. Also there is no requirement to give the first officer every other leg.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 CREW, DEPARTING ZURICH (LSCH), DEVIATED FROM THE SID WHEN CLB PWR WAS PREMATURELY SELECTED, LIMITING CLB AND MANEUVERING CAPABILITIES.
Narrative: FO FLEW DEP (NOT BEST DECISION ON CAPT'S PART) AND SELECTED VNAV AT ABOUT 100 FT (WHICH GIVES CLB PWR, WHICH AT MAX GROSS TKOF MAKES FOR A GOOD ATTN GETTER FLYING TOWARDS THE ALPS). AT THE SAME TIME HE CALLED FOR FLAPS 1 DEG AND BEGAN A SHALLOW (LESS THAN 15 DEG) TURN, AT WHICH POINT I BECAME MORE INTERESTED IN THE MANEUVER SPD AND THE TERRAIN TO THE S THAN BEING ON THE SID. WHEN THE SPD FINALLY GOT UP TO A SAFE POINT, WE ROLLED THE BANK UP TO 30 DEGS AND RESUMED TO FLY THE SID. THE LOW ALT/AIRSPD IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN WAS EASILY THE DISTRACTER IN THIS CASE. 2 LESSONS: BRIEF EVERY PART OF SID TO THE LAST KT OF SPD AND FOOT OF ALT AND DON'T ASSUME THAT BECAUSE FO IS EUROPEAN QUALIFIED MEANS HE'S BEEN THERE. ALSO THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO GIVE THE FO EVERY OTHER LEG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.