S76 flight crew challenged by ewr on initial call because of precoord route clearance issued by lga.

Attributes
ACN	537498
Time
Date	200202
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl single value : 700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ewr.tower tower : lga.tower tower : cyyz.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	S-76/S-76 Mark II
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 7000
ASRS Report	537498
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	537385
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : lga.tower

Narrative:

Lga tower requested that we call them upon departure from jrb. The first officer read back the instructions to do so for confirmation since this was contrary to normal procedures. Departing jrb, we contacted lga for clearance. We were sent back to ewr for clearance through the tfr at 'ground zero.' ATC procedures/handoffs from lga to ewr are often inconsistent, incomplete and at times contrary to past procedures. Suggest that lga (126.05) and ewr (127.85) be consistent in procedures and handoffs. 99.99% of the time, all controllers at both lga and ewr do a terrific job. But this is not the first time that I and other pilots within my department have experienced this type of situation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: S76 FLC CHALLENGED BY EWR ON INITIAL CALL BECAUSE OF PRECOORD RTE CLRNC ISSUED BY LGA.

Narrative: LGA TWR REQUESTED THAT WE CALL THEM UPON DEP FROM JRB. THE FO READ BACK THE INSTRUCTIONS TO DO SO FOR CONFIRMATION SINCE THIS WAS CONTRARY TO NORMAL PROCS. DEPARTING JRB, WE CONTACTED LGA FOR CLRNC. WE WERE SENT BACK TO EWR FOR CLRNC THROUGH THE TFR AT 'GND ZERO.' ATC PROCS/HDOFS FROM LGA TO EWR ARE OFTEN INCONSISTENT, INCOMPLETE AND AT TIMES CONTRARY TO PAST PROCS. SUGGEST THAT LGA (126.05) AND EWR (127.85) BE CONSISTENT IN PROCS AND HDOFS. 99.99% OF THE TIME, ALL CTLRS AT BOTH LGA AND EWR DO A TERRIFIC JOB. BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT I AND OTHER PLTS WITHIN MY DEPT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS TYPE OF SIT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.