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Attributes | |
ACN | 538119 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sli.vortac |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon tower : slc.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude ground : maintenance |
Route In Use | departure sid : slc8.slc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 2960 flight time type : 630 |
ASRS Report | 538119 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 538120 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There was some apparent confusion in the way we executed our clearance upon departure from slc international airport on feb/sat/02. Taking off to the north on runway 35 our clearance read, 'salt lake 8 departure to intercept the slc 094 degree radial, to the mtu 303 degree radial, to mtu, then as filed.' having departed slc numerous times before we knew that, when taking off to the north, one does not normally make an immediate right turn due to the rapidly rising mountainous terrain. However, with the event in progress, the creation of numerous temporary restr areas, and other security concerns, we assumed the clearance was designed to keep us from overflying some sensitive area or function. Once airborne we flew the 340 degree heading as called for on the slc 8 departure, until intercepting the slc 090 degree radial then turned right to fly outbound on it. Departure control quickly questioned us as to why we were turning and instructed us to turn back to a 310 degree heading, which we complied with immediately. I was the PIC of the aircraft at the time of the occurrence. I briefed the departure, how we had it set up in the cockpit, and how I intended to fly it. The first officer and I concurred and I attempted to follow the procedure exactly as we had been cleared. I feel that we, the flight crew, were led into a potentially hazardous situation due to the fact that the tower and departure control were not specific in what they expected of us. If they did not want us to fly the clearance as copied and read back to them we should have been advised of that when we were cleared for takeoff. A simple 'fly runway heading until advised' would have been sufficient.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GLF2 CREW, DEPARTING SLC, MISINTERPRETED THE SID, STARTING A TURN TO THE E PREMATURELY.
Narrative: THERE WAS SOME APPARENT CONFUSION IN THE WAY WE EXECUTED OUR CLRNC UPON DEP FROM SLC INTL ARPT ON FEB/SAT/02. TAKING OFF TO THE N ON RWY 35 OUR CLRNC READ, 'SALT LAKE 8 DEP TO INTERCEPT THE SLC 094 DEG RADIAL, TO THE MTU 303 DEG RADIAL, TO MTU, THEN AS FILED.' HAVING DEPARTED SLC NUMEROUS TIMES BEFORE WE KNEW THAT, WHEN TAKING OFF TO THE N, ONE DOES NOT NORMALLY MAKE AN IMMEDIATE R TURN DUE TO THE RAPIDLY RISING MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN. HOWEVER, WITH THE EVENT IN PROGRESS, THE CREATION OF NUMEROUS TEMPORARY RESTR AREAS, AND OTHER SECURITY CONCERNS, WE ASSUMED THE CLRNC WAS DESIGNED TO KEEP US FROM OVERFLYING SOME SENSITIVE AREA OR FUNCTION. ONCE AIRBORNE WE FLEW THE 340 DEG HDG AS CALLED FOR ON THE SLC 8 DEP, UNTIL INTERCEPTING THE SLC 090 DEG RADIAL THEN TURNED R TO FLY OUTBOUND ON IT. DEP CTL QUICKLY QUESTIONED US AS TO WHY WE WERE TURNING AND INSTRUCTED US TO TURN BACK TO A 310 DEG HDG, WHICH WE COMPLIED WITH IMMEDIATELY. I WAS THE PIC OF THE ACFT AT THE TIME OF THE OCCURRENCE. I BRIEFED THE DEP, HOW WE HAD IT SET UP IN THE COCKPIT, AND HOW I INTENDED TO FLY IT. THE FO AND I CONCURRED AND I ATTEMPTED TO FOLLOW THE PROC EXACTLY AS WE HAD BEEN CLRED. I FEEL THAT WE, THE FLC, WERE LED INTO A POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SIT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE TWR AND DEP CTL WERE NOT SPECIFIC IN WHAT THEY EXPECTED OF US. IF THEY DID NOT WANT US TO FLY THE CLRNC AS COPIED AND READ BACK TO THEM WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THAT WHEN WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. A SIMPLE 'FLY RWY HEADING UNTIL ADVISED' WOULD HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.